asking for prayer and advice

[Bryan]

So this looks like a complete rebuild correct?

[rgrauto]

Bryan check Craig's List, Atlanta Ga. saw an ad posted Detroit engines for sale at a bus shop, owner retiring in Meriweather County. Don't know if it is still listed but worth a look .

[Bryan]

Thanks! I've actually found a couple used engines but isn't that kind of taking a chance?

[rgrauto]

Bryan nothing wrong with a used engine if it is a good one.  I would want to hear it run with a working  oil pressure gauge,water hose or radiator hooked up,fire it up and let it get to operating temp.then full power and see what happens. If it is a good engine and the owner trusts that is a good eng ,they won't mind you testing it. Also take someone with you that knows the difference between a good and bad eng. If you have oil pressure within spects. hot/cold,not putting air bubbles in radiator or heads(cracked heads etc),not leaking a lot of oil,then it may be a good eng. Your engine was a used one before it broke ! lol ! If your eng was good, buy a used engine or heads,take the heads  and have them checked,rebuilt etc put on your engine and ride on down the road,  Running you will have something to sale or trade on another coach. Bryan it's your money so how you spend it is your choice,just different ways to do it,lol  Glen

[bigred]

Sounds like they are no more expensive than anyone else .!!!

[luvrbus]

Weigh your options do you want to spend 20 to 30 grand on a bus worth 15 grand maybe.

Me I would look for 93 or 94 Prevost,MCI or yea even a Van Hool entertainer bus with a 12.7 series 60 and B500 transmission.

I saw a outfit auction off 10- 93-94 models H series with the 11.1 series 60 they brought nothing 12 to 14 grand each fwiw the one that sold for 14 grand was a day coach setup real nice bus,

There was 3 -2002 seated Prevost XLll in Dallas for sale the guy was asking 35 grand ea but would take less they were hi mileage but good buses.Prevo guys don't like to hear it but watch out for rust on anything pre 1986 they can rust with the best (Eagle)  

Checkout Jim's site www.busesonline.com you never know what pops up there and don't be afraid to make a offer you never know  

[Bryan]

Yea it's definitely a tough decision. It's real hard for me to let the 4107 go, she is real nice inside and the rebuilt transmission only has 10,000 miles on it. Generator has less than 1,000 hours, kubota.

I'm heading to Jims site now. I've been browsing lots of sites and haven't found any deals like I'm seeing on this 92 prevost I'm looking at so far.

Thanks for the input guys!

[Bryan]

Oh and one other thing... When you guys are going to look at a potential bus you may purchase, would you just take a mechanic with you? Do an oil test? Etc? What are your recommendations on that?

[opus]

Oil sample for sure!

[Lin]

It's a tough place to be.  It is very likely that if you upgrade to a Prevost, you will be happy with it.  But if you put the money into the old bus, you may end up second guessing the decision for years to come.  Possibly you could get something out of it by selling parts like the newish transmission.  You could also look to see if there is a good Wanderlodge or Newell around for a good price.

If you can find something that is not far from where you are, perhaps the shop will credit part of what you paid them to go through the new prospect.

[opus]

I was just looking here at used engines:  http://www.adelmans.com/detroit?&page=1&perpage=18

[muldoonman]

Good site and info. At those prices would make me take a look if they would fit in the bus.

[luvrbus]

They sell the engines at core prices and believe me after buying a transmission and a 8V92 from Adelmans I wouldn't buy another one.

I was told the engine had been started and checked for smoking and oil pressure it could have started maybe 20 years back

[Charles in SC]

Bryan, keep in mind that the 92 Prevost you are looking at has 23 year old used engine in it if it is the original engine.

[bigred]

This is all true plus the fact that the Prevost's are not problem free by any means.I can personally testify to that.