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[eagle19952]

Perhaps I should pay better attention...had not heard the last one was already off the assembly line ... 

[CrabbyMilton]

That is a bit of a surprise. I thought the SERIES 60 had already gone the way of the square wheel and 8 track at least in automotive applications.

[luvrbus]

The 60 series has been gone for automotive use for a while now MTU has phased it out for Marine and industrial use now only German made engines and the old 2 strokes, the DD13 is leaving for German designed engines made in the USA so they say 

[Boomer]

I got to sit in on a DDC training class for the Guild members before the S60 came out.  Later, I toured the new addition of the Redford engine plant that was still under construction for the 60, even as the first units were being built.  Some things that amazed me were the system that torqued all the head bolts at once, the electric tracks in the floor that automatically moved the engines through the plant, and the robots that painted the engines.  My company hauled all the Detroit parts and engines from MI to the distributor for OR and WA for 12 years so I got to see a lot of cool iron.  Series 60, the best engine ever built, IMHO.

[CrabbyMilton]

I would agree that it was a good tough engine even though I'm a longtime CUMMINS stock holder so I say this coughing.
All kidding aside, at the time DETROIT was new at 4 cycle engines in the heavy duty range at the time this engine was rolled out so for first timers, they did a good job. They had the 4 cycle 8.2 that was introduced in 1980 but from many accounts it stunk. Let's not forget that the SERIES 60 was the foundation for the SERIES 50 which was a 4 cylinder version(2 cylinders cut off the block. It was popular though in a bus, you had to live with the extra vibration that you can't really get around with that design. But if you can get past that, alot of people like it. I guess the EPA was a contributing factor in it's downfall plus the six cylinder designs from CUMMINS gave them an edge in buses being much smoother running.

[TomC]

That's a marine engine pictured-no air compressor and a water cooled rear mounted turbo.

[Jon]

And no EGR.

[digesterman]

Boomer
"Series 60, the best engine ever built, IMHO".

I really like hearing that Mark



 

[lostagain]

I had a 1995 pre EGR S60 with 7 speed manual Eaton-Fuller in the D3 of the hockey team's. Great engine! So much torque! Go up the hills with the cars. The sound of it though is quite awful, being used to the sweet old 2 stokes... And vibrates at idle.

JC

[TomC]

I went to MTU site, and they are still listing the S60 in both 12.7 and 14.0 liter. It would really get me scratching my head if they cancelled the Series 60. Good Luck, TomC

[luvrbus]

Has MTU ever reached Tier 4 with the 60 series last I read the 12.7 was tier 2 and the 14L was tier 3,I am trying to find the phase out that published a couple years back but who knows it may be renumbered  like 1560 to match there others,but I did read where it was gone.
I am surprised how fast the 60 series reached 1 million the old 2 strokes never reached that mile stone till 1965

[Scott & Heather]

I'm glad someone else mentioned the vibration. Amazes me that my 6v92 runs so much smoother than the series 60 or 50.


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[luvrbus]

You can stop the vibration on the 50 and 60 series just tap the cruise control and add rpm to idle then they smooth out if they have the right engine mounts

[dbldragon]

in my experience v engines run smother than inlines in general , big or small. I am a bike guy and love my v4 s for smoothness. 

[TomC]

Slight difference between a bike engine and a 14 liter Diesel engine.

I checked with my Freightliner factory rep. And yes, the Series 60 is history on all fronts. Factory Reliabilts will be made for years to come. But new engines are no longer made. Good Luck, TomC