What kind of bus is this?
 

What kind of bus is this?

Started by Scott & Heather, January 01, 2015, 05:44:18 AM

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Scott & Heather

I was telling a family member about the rally and he reminisced about a bus he used to ride back in the day. He sent me a picture but I have no clue what kind of bus it is. I know one photo says something like "garwood model something" but I can't quite make it out. Anyone have a modern photo of one that's been restored or preserved?





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luvrbus

Looks like a old Flx Clipper from the late 30's looking at photos seems like 2 different buses hard for me to tale the difference in buses from that era
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bobofthenorth

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daddyoften

Those do look like two different buses

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bevans6

They are and they are not the same, interestingly.  The first bus pictured is a 1938 Gar Wood Model EFI, based on the Gar Wood Type D bus.  The second bus pictured is a 1941 Aerocoach Model EFI.  Gar Wood Industries sold their Motor Coach division to General American Transportation Corporation, who continued production under the Aerocoach brand until 1943, approximately 250 were made.  The bus is interesting indeed - it is rear engined, and it is constructed under a US patent for the use of a steel tube frame with steel and aluminium stressed panels resulting in a monocoque chassis - since it got a patent possibly the first bus so constructed.

Fine and interesting reading for New Years Day, I must say!

http://www.angelfire.com/al/silverball/memories-4.html  pictures of Gar Wood and Aerocoaches starting at 1170, three quarters of the way down the page.
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/g/gar_wood/gar_wood.htm  The same link Bob posted.
http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/a/aerocoach/aerocoach.htm  Aerocoach history and photos.

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luvrbus

There is a old Diamond T bus here that looks the same as those fwiw has a International Red Diamond 6 cylinder gas engine wonder what the others used for a engine 
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bevans6

According to the article they used a Ford flathead V-8.  Apparently at the beginning at least they were mostly Ford parts.  The guy who designed it, a man named Stout, also designed the Ford Tri-motor aeroplane.

From the article: 

A circa-1938 brochure from the Dutch Diamond T distributor, N.V. Beers, shows a Diamond T Type ET Coach, which looks identical to the Gar Wood Model D, so it's possible a few Gar Wood buses ended up in the Netherlands at the start of the Second World War. The very same design was also licensed by the French bus manufacturer Isobloc who produced small numbers of the vehicles before and after the War, albeit with a facelifted front end.

Brian
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Scott & Heather

Fascinating. I'm forwarding this info to him. He'll love this! Much thanks! Any of this type of design and era still in existence?


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CrabbyMilton

Hey, thanks for posting those interesting articles plus all of that bus eye candy. Wouldn't it be neat to find one tucked away in a barn or garage someplace in perfect condition?

bevans6

Clifford said there is one near him, one of the Diamond T versions.

Brian
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digesterman

Wade has a section on his website full of old bus pictures in case there might be someone here interested and didn't know about it, very interesting pics


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luvrbus

The old guy here has about everything in old buses,trucks and tractors he leases to the movie makers.then he will sell on B/J time to time
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