I think there should be a new section on this forum..

ros · December 11, 2014, 06:39:06 PM

Hey, Scott.

I admire your attitude. I have to because it is just like mine. Throwing dollars at something is not teaching you anything. Learning by rote is not learning at all, it is just repetitive action.
Diving in and getting dirty in whatever endeavor, is the best way and always has been.

I am sorry that you lost your life savings. Some folks on here think that they know my story and reason for being a pauper.......they have no idea. I have said it was because of poor decisions and a bit of that is somewhat true. I said it to avoid a long dissertation.

A positive spirit keeps us young and you have one.

Ros

Quote from: harleyman_1000 on December 11, 2014, 06:11:43 AM
I own 2 houses that are paid for Charles, and bought my bus to travel and live in since my health is getting bad, and I can no longer work. When I came out of my coma, I decided living and enjoying life was more important than working 7 days a week. Now I have to learn how to work on this bus, but I learned to work on my car and Harley by buying one and learning by doing it. But I am realizing that I might not have enough years left to learn everything on this bus , but I remember my grandfather telling me many years ago if I put my mind to it I could do anything. I'm thinking grandpa is laughing at me once again while watching me learn from my busnut friends Some people have had to change their living situations because of loosing everything in the economy collapse of 2006. I lost my life savings of over 170,000 in it, and now live from month to month, but

Ed Hackenbruch · December 11, 2014, 08:51:27 PM

Ros, Not really, probably worth about the same amount as it was before the rebuild.

muldoonman · December 12, 2014, 07:00:04 AM

Ed, I don't think some people realize that whatever money we throw in and at these buses don't usually don't increase the valve of um that much. Just look at the new ones a million plus and drive that puppy off the lot and the drain opens. After buying mine and having money invested above purchase price for updates would never be able to recoup what I have in it. It's mine and paid for and we enjoy it. These are not investments as we all know and some people think.

harleyman_1000 · December 12, 2014, 05:18:00 PM

Yes, that's why I bought a already converted coach, because of you all telling me how much you spent converting your buses and what there worth today, and also you telling me I was better off buying a already converted bus.

mung · December 12, 2014, 05:24:39 PM

I am still not sure on that one. I bought mine because it was a nice almost done conversion, but I wonder if it would have been easier to do the conversion myself, than to redo the brake system, airbags and all of the other little things that need to be fixed.

harleyman_1000 · December 12, 2014, 05:36:24 PM

Guess I was lucky in some ways. Mine had the new spring brake set up, new airbags, new generator, and all but the bathroom redone. Now there are lots of wires that aren't connected to anything, and the rear tires need replacing, because of age, black tank needs replacing. I'm just trying to do what I was told by people and eat this elephant one bite at a time

digesterman · December 12, 2014, 06:54:54 PM

It's a little like buying a custom hot rod, those builders pour tons of money and labor into them and never get but a fraction back when they sell them

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mung · December 12, 2014, 07:09:17 PM

Mine had a very new conversion on the inside, new kitchen with nice tile, full tiled shower, lots of nice stuff. Some of the plumbing is done, but the shower needs to be hooked up, the water pump wasn't working so I have a new one, but need to get it in, there is no option for running off of a water hookup and I would like to have that. No house batteries, but a 12v inverter, no generator. It does have extra fuel tanks and a SVO conversion. I know at least some of the tires need to be replaced, but I would feel better with them all being replaced.

It is a lot of work and a bit of money, but I know it will be worth it in the long run.

ros · December 12, 2014, 08:07:01 PM

Ed, that really is a shame and I am really sorry that you had to go through that.

Do you have even a smidgen of an idea as to what caused it to crater?

Ros

Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on December 11, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
Ros, Not really, probably worth about the same amount as it was before the rebuild.

bobofthenorth · December 12, 2014, 08:12:17 PM

Quote from: ros on December 12, 2014, 08:07:01 PM
Do you have even a smidgen of an idea as to what caused it to crater?

Only one answer to that question: If its got t*ts or tires then sooner or later its gonna be trouble.

luvrbus · December 12, 2014, 08:20:39 PM

ROFL only you Bob you guys coming this way we miss you it's been to long dock the boat and hit the hiway my friend

Ed Hackenbruch · December 12, 2014, 08:28:46 PM

Ros, probably a combination of things, did find that the rubber boot between the air filters channel and the blower had a big split in the bottom so it was sucking in some air that was bypassing the filters. Over the years we have gone thru a number of dusty construction areas. We went thru one in the corner of Wyoming on our way Montana this summer that was 17 miles long. Couldn't see the split in the rubber until they took it off of the engine. Also found some nicks/gouges on one or two of the lobes on both cams, the worst one might have been the one that the broken valve rode on. Could be a flaw in the valve stem itself, will never know for sure, they didn't find any pieces of it when they tore it apart.

luvrbus · December 12, 2014, 08:46:53 PM

They had a rash of bad after market valves for awhile the old engines were dropping valves like dead flies,then people don't know how to set up the rollers on on the heads for the cams and over time it takes a toll on the camshaft

ros · December 12, 2014, 09:07:40 PM

Thanks for the info, Ed.

Of course anything is possible but it you got me to thinking that if it had a big split, I wonder if the tremendous suction that a blower has, could have picked up a nearby bolt left loose on the engine or if one could have fallen on it and then be sucked up.

Who knows but I will check mine around the blower after hearing this.

Ros

Quote from: Ed Hackenbruch on December 12, 2014, 08:28:46 PM
Ros, probably a combination of things, did find that the rubber boot between the air filters channel and the blower had a big split in the bottom so it was sucking in some air that was bypassing the filters. Over the years we have gone thru a number of dusty construction areas. We went thru one in the corner of Wyoming on our way Montana this summer that was 17 miles long. Couldn't see the split in the rubber until they took it off of the engine. Also found some nicks/gouges on one or two of the lobes on both cams, the worst one might have been the one that the broken valve rode on. Could be a flaw in the valve stem itself, will never know for sure, they didn't find any pieces of it when they tore it apart.

Purplewillie · December 12, 2014, 10:44:11 PM

Bob,
is that your prevost I see for sale, in need of an engine

Mark