CHP and DOT busting truckers at Loves....

[digesterman]

You mean "O" voters😊

[Dave5Cs]

So if someone Had a bus towing a Toad (Pickup truck) that carried some tubs of stuff to sell at a Flee market and a popup, but the Bus was not involved other than a place to sleep and eat over night, being it was a two day affair. The Bus was parked in the parking lot not in the Flee Market and the stuff was taken into the market in the truck and returned to the parking lot at night next to the Bus. They would have to have a CDL, comm Ins. etc.? Even though it was not their normal business?

[Lin]

Dave, I am not an authority on this but it appears that what we are being told is that, at least in some states if not the Feds also, they seem to interpret things as strictly yes or no without any nuance.  I suppose that the officers involved feel that they merely give the citation and you can have your day in court if you disagree.

Unfortunately, the various governments are hungry for money, the officers are required to produce citations, and there are lots of legitimately commercial operators that will look for any sneaky loophole they can drive their truck/bus through to avoid the actual intent of the law.  In an attempt to make the net of the law impenetrable, they weave it so tightly that we get can get stuck in it too.  We are dolphin being caught with the tuna! 

[mung]

Keep in mind that the fed can only be involved if you cross state lines.

[digesterman]

It used to be that policemen, inspectors, people involved in the registration of vehicles  would always fall back to common sense, that appears to have been "trained or schooled" out of them by law makers that have in some cases no acquaintance with "common sense".

[Jon]

One thing that always amazes me, and is contrary to some of the preceding remarks, is how some people manage to to not get tickets or have issues with cops.

Far too many times I have witnessed folks driving their bus conversion / motor home / truck conversion down the road towing their 30 foot stacker trailer in the fast lane pushing slower vehicles out of the way by intimidation. Ray Charles would have been able to see the rig is exceeding just about every state limit on length, the driver is speeding and driving dangerously by tailgating to move slower drivers out of his way, and sometimes is talking on the phone.

Those are the drivers and vehicles that cops need to go after. Weigh them, do a full blown DOT inspection, and then issue tickets for not only vehicle defects, but write up the drivers for everything under the sun. Letting those fools go up the highway demonstrates to me that cops appear to look the other way far more than they should.

[rip]

Dave,thank you for your comments.I am retired Phx.P.D. officer of 25 years and could tell a lot of stories of what we go through but I won't.No matter what I say will not change any ones opinion. Thanks for your support.
Don

[lostagain]

Speaking of corrupt police:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/american-shakedown-police-won-t-charge-you-but-they-ll-grab-your-money-1.2760736

JC

[buddydawg]

There are a few things at play here that I believe are at the root of the negative perception of law enforcement.  Whenever an officer is citing you for a violation he is merely a tax collector.  I am covinced that speeding citations are only a way to collect money for the state. It has nothing to do with safety.  So when said officer is issuing a citation, you are pissed because because he and the state have their tax happy hands in your pocket.

On the other hand we should never forget that right after he plays taxman he may be sent on a call that places him in harms way, confrontation with an active shooter etc..

I think most people very much respect the one view while despising the other.

[luvrbus]

Jon I stepped off a entertainers bus at Sam's that had a 33 ft trailer without the tongue and 4 axles it was 81 ft long combined how do the do that buy a permit or what it was a Hemphill bus they don't break the law often I just was wondering how they could be that long legal      

[digesterman]

Don I have the upmost respect for the shear majority of LE, but those 99% "good cops" need to do themselves a favor and make sure their departments do not have any of those "bad apples" that spoil the reputation of all. And Don you know there are those that shouldn't be there.

[luvrbus]

He is (Don) a tough law officer to make it 25 year in the Phoenix Police dept   a world of difference in the Phoenix dept and the surrounding area Scottsdale is nothing but wise @$# jerks IMO they are being sued now for 10 mil because of their actions toward a business 
I begged for 2 years trying to get them to stop and finally had enough of their crap now the 4 are on paid leave and Scottsdale is trying to settle but that is not going to happen with me   

[digesterman]

In most cases cities do not "see the light" until they have to start digging in their pockets. Hope you are able to not only teach them a lesson on rights but take them to the cleaners, if the roles were reversed they would be extracting the "blood from the turnip"


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[MightyThor]

There are a few things at play here that I believe are at the root of the negative perception of law enforcement.  Whenever an officer is citing you for a violation he is merely a tax collector.  I am covinced that speeding citations are only a way to collect money for the state. It has nothing to do with safety.  So when said officer is issuing a citation, you are pissed because because he and the state have their tax happy hands in your pocket.

On the other hand we should never forget that right after he plays taxman he may be sent on a call that places him in harms way, confrontation with an active shooter etc..

I think most people very much respect the one view while despising the other.

Well, beg to disagree. 
For some time here in Montana we did not have a speed limit, the rule was reasonable and prudent.  And folks started to destroy themselves and others by driving faster than they could handle.  Wrecks and injuries increased.  So a speed limit was adopted so that we could try to keep the unskilled from killing themselves and the rest of us.  Turns out there is another reason,  Most folks can abide by a speed limit.  Most Drunk Drivers have a little more problem.  Law enforcement may stop someone who is speeding because there might be a reason why the person is not following the law.  Could be that they are impaired.  Could be that they are distraught, or just in a hurry.  Don't know about elsewhere, but for the most part around here the Speed limits seem to be pretty reasonable so that if you are within 5 mph you get where you are going in a timely manner. 

Eastern Oregon on the other hand seems to think that MOSEY is too fast, and they make you financially aware if you stride instead.   

[luvrbus]

I see you been to Jordan Valley Or