Tire guys and lug nuts

[chessie4905]

   I won't use never-seez any more. It attracts fine dirt particles, and over time, it starts packing in the root of the thread. With the fine threads, accumulated aluminum particles, dirt and sand can wear the thread mating surfaces eventually. If it is used, at least clean the grooves with solvent and a tooth brush to remove the old residue. Since wheel fasteners are grade 8, I don't see rust as being a major problem. Those studs that stripped mostly have been the result of countless wheel removals over the years by many commercial owners. You could also use a torque stick rated for your specific torque with a 3/4 or 1 inch air wrench. The air wrenches are available cheap enough at Harbor Freight. I know many use a commercial outfit to change a tire out on the road, but some don't want or can't wait for possibly many hours for service in some locations. Anyway, anyone that owns a coach conversion should know or learn to be able to change a tire.

[Dave5Cs]

Me either. That stuff is really tough to clean off all the silver when you leave the bottle in with your long wrenches in a metal pan and then run them over with a big Bus and it explodes. In case that should ever happen to someone, LOL Man what a mess. Tools are fine though or so my friend told me. 

[luvrbus]

The anti-seize comes in so many different formulas and colors now it almost like 40W oil for a DD  the silver stuff is hard to clean but it does stop the lug nuts from peeling the aluminum wheels bevels and I don't buying 500 dollars wheels that a bottle costing 10 bucks can prevent JMO

[belfert]

I bought a Tireman torque wrench cheap to torque the wheels on my bus.  It cost me under $200 including buying the wrench from a pawn shop and having it tested and calibrated.  At least one of the tire places I have used does have a big torque wrench for installing lug nuts.

[Boomer]

I'm with Gumpy and Luvrbus.  Have done all the tire work on my truck and bus fleets myself for decades.  If you run a 1" air gun for that many years you know when enough is enough. And you gain the experience to know when to replace old thimbles and studs by having to remove broken ones from time to time.  Also have always used Neverseize although the OEM's recommend a few drops of oil instead, expecially on the new 33mm nuts used with hub piloted. And also use the correct socket that won't touch the wheel.  Never heard of anyone mounting a truck or bus wheel with a 1/2" air gun, lol.

[oldmansax]

Never heard of anyone mounting a truck or bus wheel with a 1/2" air gun, lol.

To be fair, I should explain this was on my or my family's trucks, after I had taken them off, cleaned , checked all the threads, replaced what I didn't like, & Never-Seezed them. Used the same method on Dayton wheels too. Never had one slip. I do use good Ingorsoll-Rand guns @ 250 PSI. Nobody fooled with them except us though.

Of course, after 50 years, my number may be up!  LOL!

TOM

[brmax]

I believe most HD lugs have a 400-450 ft lbs torque, I used my best air wrench for many years over 30 anyhow in a HD shop setting 1/2 drive or 3/4 which ever I felt was able installing correctly. Removing the darn things was the pain, I have used words to assist back then and they didn't help. So I did just purchase an earthquake 1", why because im retired now and don't screw around, it was on sale and whoops butt. Yet I will still install with smaller 450 capable impact, the new style nuts with the compression washer on it can sure get tough taking off.
Have a Good Day everybody

[gus]

I forgot about Lin's method, I have to do that with LH nuts because my torque wrench won't work CCW! My air wrench will though.

[Jim Eh.]

Anyone have/use a "torque stick"? Looks like an extension but rattles the hell out of your wrists when you achieve the predefined torque range.