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spin on filters`

Started by Dave5Cs, June 11, 2014, 09:29:35 PM

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Dave5Cs

I want to make my fuel filters easier to get to. does it matter where they are or at what height?
Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

DriverGT5

It could. If they are inverted and high up, and don't have a check valve you run the risk of loosing prime. Why anyone would do that is beyond me though..

Depending on your setup there are ways to place them incorrectly but it probably won't matter under normal circumstances. Where are they now and where do you want to move them?
1968 Eagle Series 05 - 7616
8v71
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Dave5Cs

They are in the original position between the frame and block on the starter side near the front corner of the pan. Pretty easy once I put the new spin-on heads in but worry about something taking them out that might bounce up from the road. I have seen some when you open the back engine doors right there about cam height. Wondered if they ever gave them any problems at the area.

Dave5Cs
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

TomC

Considering that the fuel pump on the 8V-71 is powered by the blower at the top of the engine, being near the top of the engine is better. Mine are right in line with the blower and never have lost prime. Yours were probably placed there so when the bus was serviced over a pit, the crew could easily get to the filters-but a pain to get to now.

My oil filter was mounted that way-in front of the sideways Vdrive 8V-71. Great if you have a pit, or the bus is up on blocks. I wanted better access. I had to remove the radiator (just for the job) to get to the remote mounted oil filter. I then had long enough lines made where the filter is now mounted on the right bulk head just inside the right transmission access door and is a (Cummins) spin on filter easily obtained at any parts store. I also changed my transmission filter from canister to spin on.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Boomer

Best way is to get rid of them and install a Davco 382 Fuel Pro.  The element lasts three times longer than conventional spin ons, you lose some fuel lines and you can SEE when it is time to change the element.  They can be bought used or new surplus for around 100 bucks.  Much more efficient. Also, you won't lose your prime when changing filters.
'81 Eagle 15/45, NO MORE
'47 GM PD3751-438, NO MORE
'65 Crown Atomic, NO MORE
'48 Kenworth W-1 highway coach, NO MORE
'93 Vogue IV, NO MORE
1964 PD4106-2846
North Idaho USA

Dave5Cs

Thanks Tom but it is a 6V-71 probably the same thing as for fuel filters though. Makes sense.

Boomer where were you a week ago when I bought the spin-on heads and filters to go with them. About the same price as the Davco.
Anyone want to purchase new heads and filters, LOL

I will look into those down the road. I like the idea of a water separator within it. without the heater is it just a filter and not the separator?

Dave5Cs
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

TomC

The Davco is a fuel/water separator with filter. The heat is extra. Unless you're driving in snowy winter weather, you don't need the heated version. Detroits put out alot of heat on the fuel when running. Just use some Diesel Service or equal in the winter. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Dave5Cs

Thanks tom good advice.

Dave5Cs from Galaxy S III
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

chessie4905

   I'm leery of buying something like that. Few years down the road and they go out of business or the unit is discontinued and you're out of luck for elements or replacement parts. The spin on type are simple, effective, quick to change, available everywhere, and cheap. BTDT too many times over the years on various items YRMV.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Cary and Don

Our Eagle came with a fuel filter system that has a primer pump in it.  Really nice.  You can see the fuel flowing.  Push a button and it will prime or discharge water. The only bad thing is there is a little square O-ring that started to leak.  Can't find another one and the company doesn't carry parts for "this model" any longer.  They wanted to sell us a nice new one to the tune of about $300.  Needless to say, we found a way to make that O-ring stop leading.

Don and Cary
1973 05 Eagle
Neoplan AN340

luvrbus

The Racor 690 is a nice filter for a remote setup (it has a primer) on a bus about 125 bucks,it never been a problem for me remote mounting fuel filters,transmission,and oil filters I am a little late to the dance Dave you should have asked I have a bin full of spin on filter bases  ::) with hoses 

good luck
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TomC

Davco is a division of Detroit Diesel. Davco makes a special 482 filter just for the DD engines since they flow more fuel then other engines. I can assure you Davco will be around for the duration. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.