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Started by uemjg, August 28, 2013, 03:58:46 PM

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uemjg

1. is diesel exhuast just as deadly as a gas engine? Should I be concerned with diesel exhuast entering the bus?

2. For people that have diesel generators in bus compartments, is i necessary to have a colling fan pointed at the generator head?  How much CFM is needed in case it needs cooling?


bansil

CO will kill you!!..NO MATTER WHAT SOURCE....that is exhausted when our dino fuel burns...
So any "engine" the exhaust will kill you...it happens almost every day

No "air leaks" into passenger compartment (bus,car etc) period...too many people die

A fan onto gen head is good,exhaust the heat out is also required
Doug
Mnt City TN
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luvrbus

Diesel engines produce very little carbon monoxide it may make one sick but the exhaust will not kill you, the soot participles will do you in over time so says OSHA I would seal the bus anyway
Life is short drink the good wine first

wg4t50

Kinda hard to beloeive one would not have a snug  exhaust system on both engine and genset.

A proper engineered and installed generator would not need outside fans.

I like the idea of a vertical exhaust above the roof line when your parked to get the exhaust up and away from others who would ot enuoy your fumes.

Was at the CHarlotte Auto Show inside the Charlotte NASCAR track, had not installed the vertical pipe, was informed by a  woman it was not appreciated, so did put it pipe up, she got happier.
MCI7 20+ Yrs
Foretravel w/ISM500
WG4T CW for ever.
Central Virginia

luvrbus

LOL yea people complain about a generator then they turn around and fire up a stinky a** racket making  Webasto,Pro/Heat,Aqua/Hot or other diesel fired heaters with no stack blowing in your doors and windows and tell you "well I had to have some hot water to shower today" 

I agree with Dave on the generator I never used a fan design it right that eliminates a problem down the road
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jon

Quote from: luvrbus on August 28, 2013, 05:31:24 PM
Diesel engines produce very little carbon monoxide it may make one sick but the exhaust will not kill you, the soot participles will do you in over time so says OSHA I would seal the bus anyway

Clifford, when I lived in western NY a local small truck company owner committed suicide by sitting in his running truck inside the closed garage. Diesel exhaust can kill you.
Jon

Current coach 2006 Prevost, Liberty conversion
Knoxville, TN

luvrbus

If one wants to die I guess you could kill yourself with diesel exhaust it would take a while with work to do  but still is best to seal the bus
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jon

Even if diesel smoke exposure was good for you, a coach needs to be sealed completely against its entry.

It only takes a little while before diesel exhaust entering the coach starts accumulating black stains everywhere. And those subtle accumulations of darkening on all surfaces cannot be cleaned on most soft surfaces such as carpet, upholstery, drapes, shades, etc.
Jon

Current coach 2006 Prevost, Liberty conversion
Knoxville, TN

luvrbus

The smell never leaves I looked at a H-45 the Aqua/Hot had filled the cabin with diesel smoke that one is still for sale not worth the chance seal it but to answer his question the diesel engine is not near as dangerous as a gasoline engine for CO
Life is short drink the good wine first

TomC

I have a up exhaust for the big engine (was stock). On the generator, the compartment is small. I have an 8" inline bathroom ventilator (around 250cfm) to ventilate the compartment (my radiator is remote with squirrel cage blower). It works well, have never had problems with anything overheating. The big alternator head runs very cool-even with maximum output, the cooling air is just warm (not hot). Good luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

akroyaleagle

Carbon Monoxide is a colorless,odorless gas which occurs when internal combustion occurs.

It usually accompanies the smell of exhaust.

The effects are cumulative and will definitly kill you if allowed to build up. This means: little today, little tomorrow.....

I had a brother suffer a near death from it in a truck several years ago.

It was very prevelant in the older aircraft that scavenged heat by enclosing manifolds around exhaust. The exhaust developed leaks and the aircraft heat then included the carbon monoxide.

I can not stress enough the dangers of ignoring exhaust fumes.
Joe Laird
'78 Eagle
Sioux Falls, South Dakota

uemjg

Quote from: TomC on August 29, 2013, 09:25:55 AM
I have a up exhaust for the big engine (was stock). On the generator, the compartment is small. I have an 8" inline bathroom ventilator (around 250cfm) to ventilate the compartment (my radiator is remote with squirrel cage blower). It works well, have never had problems with anything overheating. The big alternator head runs very cool-even with maximum output, the cooling air is just warm (not hot). Good luck, TomC

Any pictures to share?

uemjg

Quote from: luvrbus on August 28, 2013, 06:37:51 PM
LOL yea people complain about a generator then they turn around and fire up a stinky a** racket making  Webasto,Pro/Heat,Aqua/Hot or other diesel fired heaters with no stack blowing in your doors and windows and tell you "well I had to have some hot water to shower today" 

I agree with Dave on the generator I never used a fan design it right that eliminates a problem down the road

Any pictures?

AndyG

There is no way to be absolutely sure that you have the coach sealed up to prevent CO from your engines or someone else's.  Install a CO detector next to your smoke detector.  They are cheap and easy to install.  My rig has a smoke, CO, & propane detectors.  About 3 yrs ago, at a W. Kentucky race track, they found people dead in their camper because their portable generator was located to close and CO got them in their sleep.

akroyaleagle

Joe Laird
'78 Eagle
Sioux Falls, South Dakota