ten year rule in LA

[lvmci]

I work in LA and LV in the TV business. I"ve done this for over fourty years. most of those four decades I've stayed in a trailer or motorhome while I work down there, instead of hotels or apartments. Currently I stay in my 66 MCI 5A and commute with my 93 Jeep Wrangler towed. I have been staying in two of my favorite So. Cal. rv parks last three or four years Valencia travel village in the Magic Mountain area when working in the San Fernando valley or East Shore Park in Pomona, when working in other parts of LA, both are quite a commute, ( I just worked at Culver City Studios 37 miles on the I405 from Valencia, one way, some of you will know about the 405). I've stayed for decades in the Valley, a much shorter commute, until about 15 years ago, when several parks started to exclude any coach 10years old from staying at their parks. First that effected me in my 92 class A, now with my 66MCI, when I got a call today saying I couldn't stay at their park, owner quoted their 10 year rule, another said I couldn't stay more than a few days at a time. Both parks have 80's even 70's motorhomes and trailers residing at them with Calif. plates. Of course if these were people they were being prejudice against, they would be taken to court. Should we as a group say something to the attorney general of California or the District attorney of Los Angeles? Has any one dealt with this before? I have stayed in county and state parks when available, sometimes dry camping or at Dockweiler Beach, which doesn't like older coaches and vehicles. It's unbelievable they can just refuse us like this. that they can just make up a rule and exclude people, shades of segregation. Of course most people who are excluded come from out of state, so not California residents.  lvmci...

[luvrbus]

I took a tour of the Las Vegas Motorcoach Resort a few months back, the wife falls for all that free prizes crap if you just listen to a sells pitch.
Make a long story short this guys was talking like people with  rv's that cost less than a 1/2 million and over 8 years old were second class citizens needless to say we didn't get a prize or the free lunch I just walked out really embarrassed the wife when I asked the guy how much his RV cost and how old was it heck he didn't even own a RV.

FWIW the wife got over the deal in 3 days though sure was glad too I was starving lol  do your thing man you don't need those type in your life

[Dave5Cs]

When we call for reservations and we tell them we have a Bus Conversion, most ask us to send or email a photo and then they say yes come along. When I asked why they do this and if they do this for everyone. They say no just for the older coaches. I would say they just admitted to discrimination, which is a law in California. No Discrimination??? I don't know how they get away with it. It is like Good Sams and the others all keep sending us the insurance stuff for fixing your coach but when I ask for a quote and tell them the age they say oh we don't go back the old. yes there is more risk for them but charge accordingly.

Dave5Cs

[lvmci]

Good Sam, AAA, FMCA and other organizations were created so many years ago for us not for the parks, they endorse certain parks and shops implying or setting some kind of standard, and to give us a discount, to give us a reason to stay in the club and an existing pool of clients of the right demographic for those businesses to easily acess by getting their endorsement. So we are the body of these clubs and we trust the managers of fmca, aaa and good sam to give that endorsment only to those that qualify and weed out the rest. Why aren't they looking into this, is it because they don't know or because they now represent the business instead of us? Lvmci...

[Dreamscape]

We stayed at Orange Land RV Park last October and wasn't even asked. There was a brand new Newell about 4 slots down as we hid behind the orange trees!  That is a nice park BTW.

I did face that when I lived in Burbank back in 04, wanting to store the bus closer to where I was living. That was the first question asked, how old is it. I guess it's a Valley thing.

[jjrbus]

I can see both sides of the situation. The lack of common sense is mind boggling. You could have a 40 year old show stopper and an 8 year old high $ coach with a porta john duct taped to the back.

I would guess the vintage Airstream site would have lots of info on this.

The park owners have to protect their investment and coach owners have to stand up for their rights.

In situations that have occurred on the forum over the years when the park owners were challenged they relented and allowed the conversions in. This was accomplished by serveral members sending letters to the park.  You can search the forum for that info.

If I were refused entry at a park I really wanted to stay at I would take a couple pictures of the coach and send a letter to the park explaining the situation. Phone calls and Email will likely not work.

There is also the option of changing the year on the conversion. I understand the year can be changed from the year of manufacture to the year of finishing the conversion. More knowledgeable people will have to step in on that.

My experience was different, the first couple years my conversions appearance was embarrassing, it really looked bad. No one ever turned me away, I would have not blamed them if they did.  The first park I stayed in Salem OR the manager actually spent time helping me do things!

HTH   JIm

[luvrbus]

Most of the time if the name resort appears the owners are a little more strict with the rules just plain RV parks don't ask to many question.

I can understand the owners point sometimes we were in a nice park in Texas with new concrete parking and paving there was a 4104 leaking oil everywhere on the guys new paving it was a mess

He still lets older buses in there only after a inspection he has that right his park( resort) cost him 10 mil to build 

[lvmci]

I can see from a business point of view also. A tow truck trying to pull out a 35' RV is not condusive to a good impression to a prosective client that would happen to come by right then. But as we all knowbusinesses will use an excuse to manufacture rules to suit their own prejudices, and yes we should be responisible for our own, I carry a cement mixing tray to put under the engine when parfked, asz my slobber tube might leak from the old 8V71. I have only stayed in Orange county a few times for vacations when the boys were young and on an occasions doing angels baseball and rams football, your suggestion is well taken, can't be any further away from my commute now and the 405 is awful day or nite. Are those parks @ $55 a nite now? Lvmci...

[luvrbus]

Luvmci, 55 bucks won't touch it we paid 80 bucks over 90 bucks with all the taxes for the only space they had it was 65 bucks in the older section 80 bucks to me is just outrageous that part of the country they have you and know it

[lvmci]

Outragious indeed! Econolodge motel is a hundred a nite. I used to stay at malibu state park in las verginas canyon(s) it was $22 a nite, wake up to birds and rabitts, but a fire tore thru there and it was a commute. I should drive over there in June and see if its recovered and report back to you guys, lvmci

[Lin]

What about putting a listing on Craigslist or elsewhere trying to find a private spot?

[Boomer]

We have stayed at Outdoor Resorts in Vegas and Indio several times with our '81 Eagle.  We only do that if we get cheap discount rates with internet coupons.  Nobody at either place mentioned anything about age, just asked what kind of coach.  If I owned a nice park I would be a little upset too if a leakin' leaner pulled in.  Or on start up it fogged the place out.

[luvrbus]

The wife and son have a RV park in the planning stages at Cave Creek with all the amenities club house,indoor pool, gym,restaurant, bar and C store with Texaco products the cost of the thing it has got to be a high rate just to pay the interest and property taxes and I know what the taxes are I have been paying those for 20 years 

They are going for the BJ and horse show people that crowd don't care what it cost 

If it goes Boomer you have a free spot to torment others and add a little class to the bus crowd  lol 

good luck 

[lvmci]

Lin, good idea, never occured to me. Wanted, space to park my rv/bus in your back yard, $35 a day, $40 with electricity. What section on craigslist? Homes for rent? Lvmci...

[Lin]

Not sure which section is best.  Maybe "parking/storage".  Just do a general search for RV space and see if that gives you an idea.  I would think that $40. a day is quite generous.  Heck, I would consider finding space at that rate (I'm not in your area though).  

By the way, another thing to consider would be calling around to mobile home parks.  I think there may be many that have spaces useable for an RV.