22'' bias ply tube tires
 

22'' bias ply tube tires

Started by HAMMER DOWN!, March 11, 2012, 02:42:10 PM

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HAMMER DOWN!

I did a little searching to see if you could still even get these old 22'' tires, and you can!

http://www.cokertire.com/brands/american-classic/american-classic-highway-truck-tread-900-22.html



I don't know much about them, but maybe some of you folks have experience with them. Ivve seen them for as low as 360-or-so dollars, plus the cost of tubes which is around 30$

Radials being far superior tires of course, but I thought it was kind of neat. A buddy of mine has a set of 22'' 5-hand hole alcoas from the 60's, ive had my eye on them for years, but never thought i could find tires for 'em. it would be cool to see them get some use again!  ;D

belfert

Is there any reason to even run bias ply tires these days?  For $390 you can get a decent radial tire in the same size.  I have seen Chinese 24.5" bias ply tires for around $200 recently.

I'm no tire expert, but the only bias ply tires I see these days are on small trailers and some larger enclosed trailers that still offer them in 15" and 16" sizes to get the price down.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

HAMMER DOWN!

Quote from: belfert on March 11, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
Is there any reason to even run bias ply tires these days?  For $390 you can get a decent radial tire in the same size.  I have seen Chinese 24.5" bias ply tires for around $200 recently.

I'm no tire expert, but the only bias ply tires I see these days are on small trailers and some larger enclosed trailers that still offer them in 15" and 16" sizes to get the price down.

Reckon there's no good reason really, maybe those die-hards out there wanting period accurate stuff. I figure there gotta be some kind of people out there buying them if they are making them. 

imho, the old 50's and 60's alcoas with big sidewall tires just look awesome  ;D but i tend to romanticize anything that is old just because it is... old (not because it's better) :-\

belfert

I can understand the $200 bias ply tires for semi trailers and the like as they are cheap at that price, but a radial makes a lot more sense when the bias ply is the same cost as the radial.

I suppose if one is entering a vehicle in a judging and got points for the period correct tires then bias ply would be a good choice.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

artvonne

  If you ever blew a front bias ply tire you would know why you would never want one on the front. I dont know what it would do in the back if one blew in a dual arrangement, but I know what a front will do and I dont ever wanna do it again, and that was in cars. Radial shred, bias ply tires flop on the rim. Scary

 

bevans6

I remember when car tires were switching from bias ply to radial, and many people swore that bias ply rode better.  What I also remember is that you had to buy a new set of tires every 15,000 miles...  The switch to radials in racing was far later, all of my cars use bias ply and they are still extremely popular.  The switch to radials in racing was initially a pure marketing move - the tire manufacturers at the top levels of racing needed to show that their race tires were radial, so they forced the switch.

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

TomC

You don't have to run a tube/split rim bias tire.  Bias truck tires are made in tubeless, normal size.  Here in Los Angeles, the overseas container trailer chassis are running 11R-22.5 bias tires mounted on Dayton cast star wheels since no one is running those tires or wheels to prevent theft.  Believe me when I say, those tires are blowing up all the time on the freeways.
Except for low speed, low mileage (like a storage trailer) use, you should be getting the best quality tire for your bus.  Remember that tires are much more then big, round rubber things that hold air.  They also determine whether or not you'll be getting decent fuel mileage, your stopping distances, the ride quality, how long the tire lasts, and how well it performs during summer in extreme heat. I personally would not touch a bias ply tire ever again-you're talking about 40 year old technology compared to today's radials.  Michelin makes over 50 different models of their on road tires-each for a specific type of service and tire position. How many bias tire models are made-maybe 3-a steer, drive and trailer tire (if you can even find that).  Please put the best radial tires on your bus that you can afford.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

wg4t50

In my world, Coker Tire does specialize in antique type show / display tires, not what I would want on my coach or truck for use other than display.  You see them on antique vehicles, I would not feel comfy for over the road cars or trucks.
Second, would not run a bias / tube truck tire again, just asking for issues.
My 2 cents worth  ;D
Dave
MCI7 20+ Yrs
Foretravel w/ISM500
WG4T CW for ever.
Central Virginia

uncle ned


I have a set of 22 inch split rim alloy wheels.  any takers.

uncle ned
4104's forever
6v92 v730
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Van

Quote from: artvonne on March 11, 2012, 07:15:38 PM
   I dont know what it would do in the back if one blew in a dual arrangement, but I know what a front will do and I dont ever wanna do it again, and that was in cars.

 

And how many cars was that ??? And lemme guess, they were all farari's ;D

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