The EMP proof Bus

RnMAdventures · January 16, 2012, 08:18:31 AM

There is a lot of info on the net about this. Build a Faraday cage around it... buy the emp sensative components and store them in a Faraday cage. Over the long term you are better off setting yourself up with sustainable energy, not fuel driven.

artvonne · January 16, 2012, 09:21:50 AM

While I do believe the possibility of an attack on our country is likely imminent, and that a powerful EMP is very likely, I try to keep a clear head about it. I dont believe the entire country will erupt into looting and killing and everyone will be dead in a year. In fact it may be exactly what our country needs to get people to pull their heads out of their rear end.

No matter how powerful of an EMP we were struck with, there will be vehicles that run. People will help each other. We will get fuel and generators and food into people who need them, get people into emergency shelters, etc.. Looters and criminal types may have some fun for a while but people will get tired of that real fast and put a stop to it.

All I'm interested in is making preparations for the short term, such as having vehicles that will run, a generator that will continue to function, etc.. Again, I think anything with a condenser, or diode may be just as fragile as transistorized components. If they still work afterwards, great, but if they don't and your dead in the water then what?? IOW, best to prepare for the worst case scenario rather than assuming certain things "might" survive.

A Faraday cage may only work if its underground as well. So if we cannot protect spare parts we need equipment that either wont go down, or that is able to be easily repaired mechanically.

jok · January 16, 2012, 10:04:28 AM

I have some second hand IBC Totes that were used to transport liquid. They have a metal cage with a plastic tank. I am wondering if such a container would work as a faraday cage. My thought is to remove the top of the tank, place items inside and cover the top with wire mesh.

Any thoughts?

jok

chev49 · January 16, 2012, 10:08:52 AM

you would have to remove the pallet on the bottom if yours came that way and cover the entire thing with the wire mesh.. i have lots of those containers also, because the chemical company is making me buy the all plastic ones that have a deposit of $500... and now that i have some of those, they don't want to give the depost back.... want exchange only...

Uglydog56 · January 16, 2012, 10:43:36 AM

From what I read, the size of the holes matter. So you might want to wrap the whole thing in copper mesh screen. Then hook it to a grounding rod ran deep.

gus · January 16, 2012, 07:28:31 PM

I can't believe this nonsense is still going on??

Are people really this gullible?

artvonne · January 16, 2012, 08:47:41 PM

Gullible about what, exactly? Let me ask you, do you have any surge protectors in your home? Do you have a UPS on your computer? If so, why? Why would you have those things, are you concerned a Lightning strike could harm your electronics? Why?

I am 53 years old, and only once did lightning do any damage, and insurance covered it. It did however, destroy everything on the property that had transistorized electronics.

I would ask, if we understand what happened Sept 1, 1859, why wouldnt that be of any concern today? I would ask, if we know various countries have built weapons that could exceed the energy of what occured in 1859 by 5 to 10 times, why disregard it? If I lived across the road from you, and put a Civil War Cannon in my yard and aimed it at your front door, wouldn't that bother you just a little bit? Well, we have rockets aimed at us from far away Gus. They are just sitting there waiting for someone to let em fly. Only they arent built to nuke our cites.

If you want to throw your hands up with that kind of looming threat, go ahead. I dont plan on throwing in the towel quite so fast.

Jeremy · January 17, 2012, 01:49:31 AM

Quote from: artvonne on January 16, 2012, 08:47:41 PM
Well, we have rockets aimed at us from far away Gus. They are just sitting there waiting for someone to let em fly. Only they arent built to nuke our cites.

If you have special knowledge about EMP weapons aimed at the USA you really ought to share it. But if it's just speculation based on internet survivalist chatter then it's reasonable for Gus to think you're gullible.

Your previous post stated that you believe an EMP attack is 'imminent' and 'very likely'. Other people are allowed to believe the opposite. Personally I believe buying a lottery ticket would be a much wiser investment than spending money on EMP-proofing a bus

Jeremy

oldmansax · January 17, 2012, 05:26:49 AM

Paul, you (and I)are wasting your (our) time.

When ever an argument is presented by either side, the opposing side presents opposing arguments.

Some are going to believe & take precautions, some are not going to believe & have trouble if an event happens.

That is why I have said previously we would all be better served if we answer questions on these boards as posed rather than trying to change the authors mind about what he (or she) wants to do.

I just got into a spirited discussion over on BNO about using webcams as surveillance cameras so this is not the only board that operates this way.

Take what answers to the original question that are helpful, ignore the other comments.

I will try to take my own advice.

TOM

wg4t50 · January 17, 2012, 06:01:14 AM

Looks like the simple truth and answer to all the above concern and hype is to simply buy an old coal mine and hide your coach and electronics beneath many hundreds of feet of rock and dirt. Then you can relax and worry the mine does not colapse on you.

chev49 · January 17, 2012, 06:03:10 AM

Or the wife doesn't yell too loud...

Lin · January 17, 2012, 10:16:06 AM

Whether the concern is valid or not, it does really seem to be way off topic. Merely using the term "bus" does not change that. Can I couch a religious discussion in a topic on how to prepare my bus for the return of Jesus or Mohamed? Maybe an EMP is somehow related to those also.

RnMAdventures · January 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM

Quote from: Lin on January 17, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
Whether the concern is valid or not, it does really seem to be way off topic. Merely using the term "bus" does not change that. Can I couch a religious discussion in a topic on how to prepare my bus for the return of Jesus or Mohamed? Maybe an EMP is somehow related to those also.

How to EMP proof his bus is a valid topic. The topic is interesting and anyone interested in learning can benefit from it.

If you or anyone else don't like it, why try to disrupt it? Just don't read it. This is not contraversial at all. EMP is real, that is a scientific fact.

I edited this post.

artvonne · January 17, 2012, 11:07:39 AM

Quote from: oldmansax on January 17, 2012, 05:26:49 AM
Paul, you (and I)are wasting your (our) time.

That is why I have said previously we would all be better served if we answer questions on these boards as posed rather than trying to change the authors mind about what he (or she) wants to do.

I just got into a spirited discussion over on BNO about using webcams as surveillance cameras so this is not the only board that operates this way.

Take what answers to the original question that are helpful, ignore the other comments.

I will try to take my own advice.

TOM

Tom, very well said. I should have never started the thread.

artvonne · January 17, 2012, 12:39:29 PM

Quote from: RnMAdventures on January 17, 2012, 10:39:50 AM

How to EMP proof his bus is valid. Gus and company's nonsense is not. The same individuals try to disrupt many threads. The topic is interesting and anyone interested in learning can benefit from it.

I thought it was a valid question, but I was wrong.