Looks like need a new motor

fredcliff · May 11, 2011, 04:16:50 PM

Well I'm being told that a Valve in the coach motor was ruined. the only solution or at least the costly way is to put in a re manufactured Motor. I';m looking for leads to someone who can help with this

luvrbus · May 11, 2011, 04:42:43 PM

location please from another post I see it is a MCI 1984 model what engine do have if the rest of the engine is in good shape just replace the head,injectors and cylinder kit

good luck

fredcliff · May 12, 2011, 04:22:55 AM

We are in Western NY its a 1984 MCI I was considering selling it till I found out about this. The mechanics say easiest and best way would be to replace it

bevans6 · May 12, 2011, 04:28:31 AM

Easiest, sure. Best - debatable but the odds are good that a reman will be a very good option. Quickest - probably. Cheapest - depends on the cost of the reman, and the depth of the repair. You could probably get away with as little as a cylinder head rebuild or swap, and one piston kit. Which engine is it?

Brian

zubzub · May 12, 2011, 06:43:56 AM

because of rust the north east is really a treasure trove of used engines....just a matter of finding them. Consider a craigs search if you want to put in a different engine, but like luvrbus said, why not just R&R the cylinder etc...should be cheaper, especially if you do most of the work (other than running the mystical rack and other magical issues).

JohnEd · May 12, 2011, 11:25:15 AM

ZubZub,

Always into Sorcery and the Black Arts.....right?

Everything I see on this post seems true and logical to me. No complement there.

An issue I didn't see was "what is the expected condition of the rest of the engine?" It sucked a valve, right? Does that calamity have a usual cause? Is age and general wear one(

) of them? Act of God? I always have that old sage advice ringing in my ears.....rebuild the top end alone and get ready for the bottom end to drop out. I have lived that advice twice in all these many years and those bottom ends had no reason to go. Maybe DD is different and I sure hope so.

Zub mentioned that the road salt was a factor in many "unworn" engines being available and I have precious doubt in Zub's opinion on almost anything. This topic is not an exception. i would, however, like to add that the NE is highly seasonal and that adds to water build up in the oil. Their typical stop and go operation is anything but a life span extender. Must be a great place for good cores, for sure. It is not, however, a spot where you can just close your eyes and spin a bottle and purchase the engine that gets pointed out. AND Zub said nothing of the sort and didn't even imply that level of "out of the box" thinking. "Kaveeate Emperor", or something like that.

John

fredcliff · May 13, 2011, 09:28:26 AM

We just ordered one from National Power Supply

JohnEd · May 13, 2011, 01:16:03 PM

Good move.

zubzub · May 14, 2011, 02:43:35 PM

If it is not prying care to share how much that set you back?....nice to know these things in case they happen to me. Don't want to bug the guys at National Power Supply for something I don't need now.

buswarrior · May 14, 2011, 05:33:04 PM

Feel good about it!

There shouldn't be any more issues to think about in the engine department with a fresh one.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Raymond smith · May 14, 2011, 07:29:49 PM

I bought a 89 mci with antifreeze in the oil. Detroit dealer it came from said the motor was finished,and they could supply one for $20'000 dollars.With the guidance of an ex detroit mechanic (retired) we determined it was just a head gasket o-ring. Total cost of repair was $300 dollars abottle of rum and one weekend.Sometimes fixing is cheaper. Raymond

fredcliff · May 15, 2011, 06:03:42 AM

We had problem after problem,the last straw for my decision to put in a new engine was a dropped cylinder, two broken injectors and a busted piston ALL IN ONE DAY. 11,900 for the engine and 1000 to install it I hope that puts end to our engine issues for while and we can keep the band on the road

zubzub · May 15, 2011, 07:13:21 AM

Sounds like a good investment to me. Thanks for passing on the cost etc....good to know what worse case scenarios can cost. Happy bussin.

buswarrior · May 15, 2011, 07:27:37 AM

Quote: I hope that puts end to our engine issues for while and we can keep the band on the road

This changes everything, from normal busnut logic.

This coach has to run, has to run now, and has to get everyone home again for their other lives.

Lots of bands have collapsed over the BS surrounding the transportation, when a busnut gets involved.

The rest of the band doesn't give a crap about any of it, they just want to perform and get home.

Quite a challenge for us busnuts to get our heads wrapped around that one!!

Sounds like a good price and a good decision!

happy coaching!
buswarrior

zubzub · May 15, 2011, 08:05:29 AM

Yeah just checked fredcliffe's website, this is working entertainer coach...their flagship no less (also their only ship so probably pretty important).