bio diesel and WVO

[bevans6]

All he would have to do is start to harvest the methane from the cow farts to run his car or his cooking stove (like propane or natural gas).  Then he would have to canola for oil, the feed for the cows, the manure for fertilizer, the methane for fuel, the cows for milk, cheese and the occasional steak, or burger, and away he goes...  I wonder if you could really get it to a closed loop.

Brian

[Jeremy]

All he would have to do is start to harvest the methane from the cow farts to run his car or his cooking stove...

Auntie Entity had the system working well, except they used pigs rather than cows, and they couldn't really be called cars any more



(It's a Mad Max reference folks. All about what happens when the diesel runs out)


Jeremy

[Kevin]

Hello Wal,

Sent you a PM.

Kevin

[ldhamm]

The highest diesel fuel prices in Europe last week were in Norway, where they were paying an average of just over $10USD/ gallon (US). One would think that if WVO could be produced and used effectively, it would be our European friends that would lead the way.

OTOH, my new tires will set me back ~$3000, and the awning will be somewhere north of $4k. I figure the money I saved converting my RTS compared to buying a commercial conversion will now be spent on the luxuries, like fuel. I retain the right to change my mind when diesel hits $10/gallon though...

Larry H.

[wal1809]

Welcome to the forum.  I am glad your 1st post (?) was on the wvo thread.

[chev49]

If fuel prices get to $10.00, around here, not only will bus prices be only scrap value, my Big Mac will cost me $14.99

[Busted Knuckle]

If fuel prices get to $10.00, around here, not only will bus prices be only scrap value, my Big Mac will cost me $14.99

yeah but after buying the big mac you can go out back and raid the grease bin for the grease that came out of it while it was being cooked!
  BK 

[Charley Davidson]

Wal, Do you have a couple inches of that hose you could put in a peanutbutter jar full of wvo for a test? Does the chemical list include veg oil in it as one of it's resistants to? Just wondering as I've heard from a few guys that say it doesn't hold up. Veg oil is some weird stuff when it comes to compatibility with rubbers (& no I don't mean condoms) lol

I need to run some more fuel line so I'd like some more info on what your using.

[wal1809]

Wal, Do you have a couple inches of that hose you could put in a peanutbutter jar full of wvo for a test? Does the chemical list include veg oil in it as one of it's resistants to? Just wondering as I've heard from a few guys that say it doesn't hold up. Veg oil is some weird stuff when it comes to compatibility with rubbers (& no I don't mean condoms) lol

I need to run some more fuel line so I'd like some more info on what your using.

I don't know the brand off the top of my head but I will look when I get to the house.  I sank a piece in a baby food jar 6 months ago and it is still holding up.  I know for 35 bucks greasecar sells a roll of chem hose rated for veg oil.  It is the red fuel line.  If you get on their site they have it displayed in a pic.  I can't remember how long the roll is right now.

[fre1102]

I have the problem Highway Yacht has--there's absolutely zero WVO locally to collect.  Every source is being paid for it, and the prices are nearing the point that after refining to bio-diesel, it's cheaper to just buy normal diesel at $4.10/gallon.

I'd love to make bio-diesel, and if anyone knows of a source for the WVO in the southeast, drop me a line.  I'll happily come to collect it.

[wal1809]

If your going to run a bus on alternative fuel I would suggest WVO instead of bioD.  It would be too costly, time and money wise, to run bioD in a bus.

[Oonrahnjay]

I have the problem Highway Yacht has--there's absolutely zero WVO locally to collect.  Every source is being paid for it, and the prices are nearing the point that after refining to bio-diesel, it's cheaper to just buy normal diesel at $4.10/gallon.

I'd love to make bio-diesel, and if anyone knows of a source for the WVO in the southeast, drop me a line.  I'll happily come to collect it. 

I live in North Carolina (like Highway Yacht does) and the situation near me is the same ... except all the biodiesel is being sold for $1 gallon more than petro diesel.

[wal1809]

There are lots of creative ways to obtain wvo.  Recycle centers at the city, pool family and friends to obtain small amounts over time, run a craiglist add with a email contact offering to pick up locally during Thanksgiving and Christmas when everyone is frying turkeys.

When I first got into this I could not find oil.  I decided it was out there and I was going to find it.  I set up a trailer with collection barrels and I got in the truck.  I went from restaurant to restaurant just talking to people.  I printed on copy paper what I was doing and people went for it. It was not easy, I simply made it happen. 

[happycamperbrat]

bio-diesel is supposed to be more like diesel then wvo and the same kind of tolerances to rubber or other materials which is why there is no modifications needed to run bio diesel. But, of course, as fat as Americans are we just arent fat enough to power all the diesels with wvo Sure there are shortages of wvo, and it will get worse as the cost of diesel rises. Wvo is nothing more then a quick fix if you can get it. It is a commodity now, not just trash.

[Len Silva]

The marketplace can be a wild and wonderful thing.  Years ago you could get sawdust and shavings for horse bedding for almost nothing.  When we last had horses four years ago it was up to about $20.00 a yard.  As the demand for animal bedding and engineered wood product rose, so did the price.

WVO is the same way.  Not only is there a demand as a fuel source but it is being re-refined for other purposes.