Bus Busted at RV Pump in AZ

luvrbus · February 13, 2011, 07:05:10 AM

I knew was a matter of time but Sat I saw 2 people busted for fueling at the RV pump in Phoenix saving 8 cents a gallon is going to cost those two one was a MCI bus with 3 axles they let a MCI 5 slide just waved him on but got a 40ft Monaco with 3 axles also, just a warning guys better stay under 26,000 lbs and 2 axles or the man will get you now in AZ.
The 2 Canadians were not happy campers the one with the MCI 9 mouthed off and told the patrolman he had been doing it for years and it was never a problem before bet that helped his cause as you could hear him all over the parking lot lol
All my years living in AZ that was the first time I ever saw that happen signs of the times I presume all about the revenue

good luck

rwc · February 13, 2011, 07:08:25 AM

Were these converted buses? Rod

boxcarOkie · February 13, 2011, 07:11:37 AM

Hey Clifford, if it is two axles and it is tagged "RV" how can they enforce this? Sounds like another case of permit nazi's to me. RV pumps take too long to fill anyway, and I believe the cash price is the lowest price (at the flyin hooker where I usually purchase fuel), so you could get around this by simply paying cash for the fuel, right?

BCO

fredcliff · February 13, 2011, 07:14:47 AM

I don't understand

luvrbus · February 13, 2011, 07:19:10 AM

All over the pumps Don" Do Not Dispense" over 26,000 lbs, 2 axles or mobile fuel tanks I have done it for years being I hate the nasty truck islands and Rod they were converted coaches

good luck

luvrbus · February 13, 2011, 07:23:24 AM

Fred, in AZ they sell fuel for trucks which have the road tax in AZ the RV's don't pay the road tax it has always been 26,000 lbs or 2 axles now they are enforcing it even some of the stations now show the truck price and if you meet the requirements they change it to the RV price I was at a Shell Station that was setup that way

good luck

Len Silva · February 13, 2011, 07:39:09 AM

We are planning a trip next year from Florida to San Francisco. It is a long distance out of the way to avoid Arizona, but you can bet I will find it. Nary a nickle from me in that state.

belfert · February 13, 2011, 07:53:31 AM

You're going to drive hundreds of miles extra to avoid an extra 8 cents a gallon in tax? Most of us have large enough tanks to drive all the way through Arizona without fueling and thus won't pay anything to Arizona.

Arizona's normal tax on fuel is 18 cents. They charge 26 cents on diesel but passenger vehicles, some RVs, and certain other vehicles are charged the 18 cents rate. If you're over 26,000 lbs or over 2 axles you pay the 26 cents rate.

I'll probably never get to Arizona, but I certainly would not avoid the state.

brando4905 · February 13, 2011, 07:59:06 AM

Len,

391 miles through AZ on I-10, just fill up in NM.

luvrbus · February 13, 2011, 08:30:11 AM

Not a problem with AZ just people cannot read the break was given for people visiting our state abide by the law that what some of you preach here and fwiw I fueled in Phoenix cost me 3.18 a gal with the 8 cents off plus another 10 cents for using my Shell credit card bypass AZ but it is law and they have not enforced it for years that fuel is for pickups,trucks under 26,000 gross, cars and RV's under 26,000 pretty clear on AZ's part to me what other state gives RV's a break not Oregon for sure they charge you a extra .25 per gal for RV use

good luck

buswarrior · February 13, 2011, 08:37:32 AM

Regardless of use, heavier than 26000 will impact the roads more than under that, so pay we will.

That's the trouble with exemptions, folks start to think they are entitled, and then "the man" will slap back.

Check those trucker oriented fuel station guides, they usually have all the road taxes broken down in them, so you can decide where geographically to fuel, as well as using which islands.

I like the big hose at the truck island, 20 minutes to fuel the coach with the little hose is time better spent doing something else. But, whatever I have to do to get the less expensive price, I gotta do.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Melbo · February 13, 2011, 08:59:31 AM

I usually fill up in New Mexico or Mexico when driving through AZ but if I need fuel I use the truck pumps never knew there was that big a difference in the price at the pumps

Melbo

Lin · February 13, 2011, 09:10:21 AM

The last time I weighed my 5a, it was over 27,000#. I'm sure that it has lost a lot of weight since then since it has more pep. I guess I will call it a nominal 25,000# now.

Jriddle · February 13, 2011, 09:29:09 AM

Quote from: Lin on February 13, 2011, 09:10:21 AM
The last time I weighed my 5a, it was over 27,000#. I'm sure that it has lost a lot of weight since then since it has more pep. I guess I will call it a nominal 25,000# now.

I would not be telling to many this. I live in NV now and I am not sure of their laws on this here but do know that in Montana you would only be allowed 26500 LBS depending on the tire width on a single Axel.

John

Barn Owl · February 13, 2011, 10:26:39 AM

Do they put you on the scales? I can carry enough water and fuel to put me over. I do carry a scale printout of my weight empty and am under 25k. Another reason to keep my 4106.