Cash baby!!!!

brando4905 · February 06, 2011, 05:30:38 AM

Marc,

Are you a proud new owner of a Eagle yet?

thejumpsuitman · February 06, 2011, 05:40:12 AM

Quote from: brando4905 on February 06, 2011, 05:30:38 AM
Marc,

Are you a proud new owner of a Eagle yet?

Very close... We have been drenched with rain the past few days. We go back to drive it when the ground firms up. If all is well, we do the deed. Will keep everyone posted.

Marc

thejumpsuitman · February 19, 2011, 01:36:56 PM

Okay, so here's what I did to transport the cash...

I got an old sewing machine, the old black type in a carrying case with a removable top. I took the sewing machine out and under it, I spread out all the cash then covered it with old rags. Put the sewing machine back in the case, fastened it and put it in the trunk.

At the hotel they probably wondered why on earth I was bringing an antique sewing machine into the room.

Nellie Wilson · February 19, 2011, 04:58:55 PM

Wow! Talk about an abundance of caution.

Nellie

John316 · February 19, 2011, 05:59:29 PM

Clever, Marc.

Good idea. Thanks for the update.

God bless,

John

thejumpsuitman · February 19, 2011, 06:54:21 PM

Quote from: Nellie Wilson on February 19, 2011, 04:58:55 PM
Wow! Talk about an abundance of caution.

Nellie

1200 miles by car through 7 states? You bet an abundance of caution! In Louisiana, we got pulled on the way back and they searched the car completely without cause. Not looking to share, and when it comes to that kind of cash, I trust nobody.

Nellie Wilson · February 20, 2011, 08:00:25 AM

JSM -

Actually, I was just kidding...

Hey, about that LA thing... did they give any kind of reason for the stop? Were you in the car or in the new bus?

Nellie

John316 · February 20, 2011, 09:34:50 AM

Marc,

Seriously, PD stopped you and searched the car? Why? In Kansas, after they stop you, they have to take care of business, tell you, that you can go, and THEN ASK if they can search your car.

We are told up here ALWAYS say no. I knew a guy in CA that had a tire knocker in his trunk. After he had a little fender bender, the police asked to search his car. He agreed. They found that knocker, and put him in jail for carrying a club. It is to the point, that even law abiding citizens, that have nothing to hide, need to refuse them, if possible. There just is no reason for it...

Now, take what I am saying with a grain of salt. I am a very law abiding citizen. I am surprised that things have gotten to this level, but they have.

FWIW

God bless,

John

Paso One · February 20, 2011, 10:10:09 AM

Did you have the sewing machine full of cash when they stopped you

Not sure if I'm reading right

If you did and they found it there would be lots of explaining I'm sure.

There was some videos floating around about being stopped by the police on the road.

It had two examples one example showed the results of answering questions one way as opposed to another way.

Those videos could scare the **** out of any law abiding bus driver

( making it bus related )

TedsBUSted · February 20, 2011, 10:45:52 AM

Back when the President who's home state was Arkansas was in office, my car was stopped on an Interstate Highway located in that state. I had nothing to hide, and since I figured the question was just rhetorical chit-chat, when the officer casually and pleasantly asked if he could search the car, I gave verbal consent. That was a mistake which I will not repeat.

The moment I gave consent the officer became an instant jerk. In the middle of nowhere and without any potential witnesses on my behalf, my car was practically torn apart from bumper to bumper. In the search process, the nice fit of a really nice car's trim panels was destroyed and a general sloppy mess was made of the car and its contents.

I would NEVER again consent to such a search without a warrant. If possible, I would insist on consulting an attorney first. Also, if possible, I would insist that any disassembly work be done by licensed tradesman. During my wait I overheard enough conversation to figure out that the reason for targeting the car was because it had been tracked as making a a fast turn-around trip to TX and thus was suspected of hauling drugs. Yes, I had made a quick run to TX, but not for any illegal purpose.

When it was all done, instead of an apology, I was given a rude and caustic "You beat us but we'll get you next time" attitude along with a torn-up car. I'm sure that by that time a search of my background had made it clear that any chance of my profile fitting a drug runner's was very slim. For all the police officers who have since faced a polite but firm hard line from me, they can thank the rude impolite boys from Arkansas.

The reason I mention this old news is to make law-abiding coach owners aware of the potential that lurks when giving a casual consent to search.

Peace

Paso One · February 20, 2011, 11:02:15 AM

Quote from: TedsBUSted on February 20, 2011, 10:45:52 AM

I would NEVER again consent to such a search without a warrant.

The reason I mention this old news is to make law-abiding coach owners aware of the potential that lurks when giving a casual consent to search.

I can't imagine giving them casual permission to " look around " (search ) in a bus.

TedsBUSted · February 20, 2011, 11:10:09 AM

Quote from: Paso One on February 20, 2011, 11:02:15 AM
I can't imagine giving them casual permission to " look around " (search ) in a bus.

You're right Paso One.
As I recall, the request was posed as a question in the form of a light-hearted joke that caught me off guard.
However, the moment I gave some small form of verbal consent the tables turned.

thejumpsuitman · February 20, 2011, 02:31:30 PM

It actually happened on the return trip. I was driving the bus and my friend was behind me in the car. He had to quickly call us to let us know he was stopped. It was he who gave permission for them to search. Glad it happened on the return trip. I would not put it past a dirty cop to seize my money. From what I am hearing, I should always say no. Good thing to know.

Nellie Wilson · February 20, 2011, 05:37:09 PM

FWIW -

You guys are absolutely correct... now warrant, no search. These gestapo types don't understand 'nicety.' Bunch of punks with dirty collars and a badge, who mistake civility with stupidity.

Screw 'em.. they need a warrant. Which means they need probable cause. Which means they need a judge to execute the warrant. Which means they can't detain you (us). Which means we'll be across the state line before any of this happens.

Don't ask how I know.

Nellie, the Outlaw

boxcarOkie · February 20, 2011, 05:58:54 PM

FWIW -

You guys are absolutely correct... now warrant, no search. (Wrong) These gestapo types don't understand 'nicety.' Bunch of punks with dirty collars and a badge, who mistake civility with stupidity.

Screw 'em.. they need a warrant. (Wrong) Which means they need probable cause. (Wrong) Which means they need a judge to execute the warrant.(Wrong) Which means they can't detain you (us).(Wrong) Which means we'll be across the state line before any of this happens.(Wrong)

Don't ask how I know. Cheesy Grin

Nellie, the Outlaw

Nellie,

Warrants are no longer necessary under the Patriot Act.
They are not required by law to be nice to you.
They don't have to have probable cause anymore
No warrant needed, no judge entering into it
You can be detained (legally) for 48 hours under wants & warrants, always been that way. (They check states to see you have any open warrants, not used much anymore, because of sharing of information via computers)
You will leave, when they "allow you to leave."
They can enter your home and tap your phones without your permission.

You still have Constitutional Rights in this country, but they are somewhat limited in scope now, they are not what they used to be. If you are stopped and questioned by law enforcement you should know and be able to recite the following by heart (or memory).

Officer, I mean no disrespect, but I understand my rights. I have the right to have an attorney present during questioning. I have a right to refuse to consent to any search of my body and my personal effects. I wish to exercise those rights. If I am under arrest, I wish to invoke and exercise my Miranda rights and be allowed the opportunity to obtain the advice of an attorney. If I am to be taken into custody, I request a reasonable opportunity to make arrangements to secure my property. If I am not under arrest, I want to leave. If I am free to leave please tell me immediately so I may go about my business.

I guess if I had problems I could skip the cops and call a crack head, but that isn't helping matters any. Coppin an attitude is only going to get you more grief.

Been there ... Done that ... Posted my bail.

BCO