Brake conversion: Drum to disc, and the DD3's to spring

[pvcces]

John316, I understand that disconnecting any sensor should cause the brake system to disable the ABS, so it acts like a non ABS system.

Do not go this route unless you are sure that you do not want the ABS to be operational, such as snowy conditions without traffic while you practice your braking effort.

Good luck.

Tom Caffrey

[John316]

Thanks for the link, Brian. I am looking into it more.

Tom, thanks for the tip. Don't worry, I won't disable the ABS on my truck. I will just live with it . I was mostly joking earlier.

Thanks.

God bless,

John

[justin25taylor]

John,
Where do you live?
Most of the Prevost buses I drive (for work) have the disk/anti-lock setup and like others, I hate them. They might stop a little faster in the grand scheme of things (due to disk brakes not anti-lock), but I cannot for the life of me get used to the "delay time" from when you push the brake pedal to the time it begins to slow down. I have driven near a million miles in these "new style" coaches and always seem to pucker up and break out into a sweat when I need to make a fast stop due to some drunk, deer, or something at 4:00AM. I strongly prefer the brakes on my Eagle.
I will admit I rarely have trouble with brakes not wanting to release and other similar problems. Unless you count the time I had a rotor crack most likely due to a previous driver driving it like a car down the grapevine or similar. That was one scary feeling friends. Modern 3 stage jake brakes and the lord were with me on that ride down I-80.

I also agree about driving on the snow and ice in Canada in January. The anti-lock brakes take longer to stop especially on a wash-boarded road as the anti-locks just want to pulse. With the regular brakes I have been able to stop faster.
Although I hate to disagree with someone as knowledgeable as Cliff, I have to agree with Buswarrior. ABS IS NO FRIEND OF MINE.

If you let me know where you are, and I come through there with a preferably empty bus I would like to let you drive it a little bit and see if you really like the way these brakes feel.

I will put on my flame suit just in case there are others that feel different, or think I am talking out my a$$.

Above all things I am here to learn and try to help my fellow bus friends. If anyone has the time to enlighten me on where I am wrong I will gladly shut up and try to learn something from you fine folks.

Be safe out there!

Best,
justin

[luvrbus]

Justin, I have never driven ABS in freezing rain or snow but out here in the desert and in Texas those brakes are as smooth as silk and owning Eagles I am impressed with anything that will stop you  LOL 




good luck

[robertglines1]

Justin: this is the kind of feedback we need.Was more than one coach involved? rite now I'm on fence about them and it's decision time for me.I have a 98 prevost XLE and need to do some work on antilock .Trying to decide wether I would like them to be functional or not.I haven't driven this bus or one with antilock.I do have a 89 prevost that have had and driven for 7 yrs and have no problem with it's performance...Can you compare?  Bob

[justin25taylor]

Bob,
I answered your PM just now.
I really, really need to load my suitcase and get over and pick up my bus for a run this week.
Send me another PM with your number, or call me and we can talk about it in detail. After we talk we can post our opinions so everyone else will see them.

Cliff, You are right buddy. If it stops, I am thrilled!!!!!!!!

Gotta run gang.

Best,
Justin