Question about Lock-Rims

Mex-Busnut · September 23, 2010, 04:44:30 PM

Dear Friends:

Is it true that lock-rims have been made illegal as being to hazardous? Our bus has 6 of them. The tires are 11-22.0. They are Goodyear and look like new.

Thanks in advance!

Eagle Andy · September 23, 2010, 04:59:17 PM

Iam not sure about the lock rim part , but from the picture they kind of look like what I would call a split rim Iam not sure if there illegle and from my experience there only dangerious when ther not inflated correctly in a cage. and then if that rim is not set right it can come off with a great deal of force .But as far as running down the road never had any issues . FWIW

luvrbus · September 23, 2010, 05:15:19 PM

They are not illegal only problem is they only accept a tube type tire that may not be a problem in Mexico but the tube type in that size are hard to find in the states you would never find one at a truck stop here they would need to special order to get you back on the road

good luck

uncle ned · September 23, 2010, 06:22:50 PM

I have 4 22 inch split rim aluminum wheels if any one is interested.

uncle ned

Mex-Busnut · September 23, 2010, 06:42:44 PM

How much $$?

uncle ned · September 24, 2010, 07:14:38 AM

Just come and get them. can bring tnem to Palmetto Cove if I make it.

uncle ned

Mex-Busnut · September 24, 2010, 07:18:07 AM

Thanks, Uncle Ned! Where on the planet are you located? I am 600 miles South of the border

luvrbus · September 24, 2010, 07:20:25 AM

What are you guys calling split wheels, split wheels to me where the ones that come apart in the middle, the others had a locking ring on the outside some had a single ring the others had a wide ring with a small locking ring on the outside not sure I follow you guys on this wheel deal.

good luck

Mex-Busnut · September 24, 2010, 07:26:07 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on September 24, 2010, 07:20:25 AM
What are you guys calling split wheels, split wheels to me where the ones that come apart in the middle, the others had a locking ring on the outside some had a single ring the others had a wide ring with a small locking ring on the outside not sure I follow you guys on this wheel deal.

good luck

Mr. Luvrbus:

I learned to call the ones with a locking ring on the outside "lock rims". This was when I was driving truck up in Texas.

Ed Hackenbruch · September 24, 2010, 09:18:43 AM

No matter what type they are or what you call them, i would not have them. Have heard too many stories over my life time of people being killed or injured from them.....not worth the risk as far as i am concerned.

luvrbus · September 24, 2010, 09:41:25 AM

Better check all that rubber tired equipment you operate Ed most all of those have lock rings with o-ring for tubeless tires.

Ed Hackenbruch · September 24, 2010, 09:50:24 AM

Believe me, i am aware of that Clifford!

I just won't own them on my bus.

Just last year i heard about a grader operator that was standing near his machine when one blew and took his head off. They think the lock was worn enough that it finally came loose if i remember the story right.

baker4106 · September 24, 2010, 03:46:31 PM

If they are rolled on the rim split, they are split ring, if the rim is split and shoved together and a solid ring installed, they are split rim. I don't know if any tire person would install either of these now. Did many of these in the 70's and they are dangerous!

luvrbus · September 24, 2010, 04:14:03 PM

That's fine baker 4106 now what do call the the wheel that is split into 2 pieces that locks in the middle ? no ring or locks on the outside.They were used mostly on 19 inch wheels with 5 lugs I still have my dads farm truck in Texas that has those wheels
I live in the framing area and see the tire shops here fixing the old style wheels all the time they wrap a chain around the tire or use a cage and it doesn't seem to bother the guys at the shops.
the one piece wheel was developed for the tubeless tires

kyle4501 · September 24, 2010, 06:06:52 PM

I have a set of alum 20" with the lock ring. I like the look on the rear duals. I'll likely use tubeless for the front tho.

The selection of 20" is limited, but not impossible to find decent drive tread.

I have a tire cage (& will also use chains) to contain the pieces if the lock ring fails during airing up the tire. My experience with lock rings leads me to use caution when working with the rings & if I see any problems, I won't use the part. Any deformation or warping is grounds to scrap out the part.

I have seen tire guys try to reuse bent lock rings & hammer them into place - not me.