not so nice 4104

[artvonne]

  I wouldnt have normally done thins, but the proposed engine swap this clown started sounded like it would make for a very interesting discussion. I'm gonna go start some popcorn.

  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140455949245&_trksid=p2759.l1259

[FloridaCliff]

Art,

I saw that one too!

Why he thought taking out a Detroit 6v71 and attempting to put in a GM 454 was a good idea.......I don't know....

[Brassman]

Another one bites the dust. 

[Busted Knuckle]

Serious accident   ?
I wonder if it had anything to do with an engine falling on him?
  BK 

[FloridaCliff]

Another one bites the dust. 

Parts Bus for sure......

Its a shame though.....

[FloridaCliff]

Serious accident   ?
I wonder if it had anything to do with an engine falling on him?
  BK 

Now that would sting........

[Kevin]

Gee Whiz.

What a shame. Amazing, isn't it, how worthy vehicles can turn to dust? Makes you wonder what the Hell happened...

[artvonne]

  The really sad part is it sounds like it ran and drove before he attempted the abortion.

[Rick59-4104]

 Oh my    As a former owner of a S&S that had a 454 gas engine in it I am really confused about the solution he arrived at on improving mileage over the 671.
Wonder how everything was going to bolt up? I have read that some of the very early GM buses had 2 gas engines when one was not enough, maybe 2 454's would have worked.

[zubzub]

Fully seated 4104, hmmm....too bad he doesn't mention the shape the tires are in.  If the tires are decent, you could pop that 671 back in there and pick up a load of passengers, get it right back into revenue service where it belongs. .   Also without a radiator the bus won't have any coolant ....so right away no coolant overheating problems!

  On a more serious note, this may still be a good coach, all he did was pull the engine,(and clutch and tranny)  A little love and tenderness and that might end up a nice coach....also maybe the intakes were protected from the beginning, which shows a little forethought. 

[Len Silva]

It appears to have good rear glass.  That would be about half the value of this bus.

[trucktramp]

First off I have to ask, What was he thinking??  If you're going to do a motor swap in a classic piece of equipment you need a classic motor.  Since he wanted to go to a gas engine, I would have to suggest something from an early vintage John Deere.  Then he would have that cool putt-putt sound.

[uncle ned]

Kyle   Do you think we could get the bus recover group and add this to my collection.

Would be a good canditate for a series 50 transplant.

Ken how is you transplant coming along.

uncle ned

[John Z]

It don't look right to me with the dual head lights.

Long live the '04!

[TomC]

You think the 6-71 was slow with 570lb/ft of torque (stock)?  Much slower with the 454 with about 400lb/ft torque.  Most 4104's get in the 8-10mpg, just cut that in half for the 454.

I'm one of the driver's for my mens chorus (Masters of Harmony) that has a Chevy pickup with a 454 throttle body injected pulling a fifth wheel-weighing in at 16,000lbs. If driven easy cruising around 60mph, I can squeeze 6mpg out of it.  So someone was blowing smoke thinking that ANY gasoline engine would get better fuel mileage than a Diesel.  Too bad!  Good Luck, TomC