Series 60 for '87 LeMirage??
 

Series 60 for '87 LeMirage??

Started by rv_safetyman, July 20, 2010, 07:14:08 PM

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rv_safetyman

OK folks, I am supposed to know about engine conversions ;D, but I don't know squat about Prevost buses.

I have a good friend (does not feel comfortable with the internet) who has a line on a great Series 60 and he asked me how much of a job it would be to swap out (has 8V92 now).  I went over the gearing issues, all of the fabricated parts, electronic conversion, etc.  

What I don't know about the engine compartment space.  As I recall, later years of this model had Series 60s from the factory.  He said that he had heard that it makes a difference if it was a seated coach vs a chassis for conversion (his was seated).

Do you have to do a bed raise?  Is there enough length for the Series 60 and an HT740 (World would be shorter)?

He is a fellow who always likes a challenge and I think he has the talent to do the conversion.  However, I pointed out that he already has a good engine in terms of power.

Jim
Jim Shepherd
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'85 Eagle 10/Series 60/Eaton AutoShift 10 speed transmission
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robertglines1

Jim I have both setting here now will try to measure tomorrow..there is a problem with the tag clearance in the models designes for the 8V92 if someone is placing a 60 series in them..Hard Headed Ken  is doing one now..he would know the answer....Bob
Bob@Judy  98 XLE prevost with 3 slides --Home done---last one! SW INdiana

Hal

Tag is an issue with this one. If I were to do it I'd build a new tag-a challange but I dare say possible. Hal
1974 Eagle, 102",45", lifting rear tag, single slide, 14ltr pre egr Series 60,world trans.
1977 GMC fwd MH, converted to diesel with 4sd auto
1975 FMC Duramax/Allison conversion in progress

TomC

I know Prevost made two different wheelbases-one for the 8V-92TA and the other to accommodate the longer Series 60.  It is easy to tell the difference, the longer wheelbase for the 8V-92TA has no space between the radiator (on the left side) and the wheel skirt.  The shorter wheelbase for the Series 60 has a space between the radiator and the rear wheel skirt with longer rear overhang.  Personally, I don't think you could squeeze the Series 60 on a 8V-92TA designed bus. 
The Cummins ISL 8.9 liter is available up to 450hp and 1250lb/ft torque.  That would be very close to the same dimensions as the 8V-92TA, plus be about 850lbs lighter.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Skykingrob

Jim
I have a 91 with an 8V seated coach. I looked long and hard at this with several local mechanics. The conclusion was for a 60 and 5 speed alison, you would have to either modify the tag or as an alternative, split the bus behind the tag and add 2 feet. I don't need to tell you either option is a ton of work and expense. Since my 8V only has 82,000 original miles, I decided to forego the time and expense. If your friend likes doing tough jobs, it is doable. I noticed you said HT 740, don't know about it.

Rob
91 Prevost LeMirage XL
Missouri

Joe Camper

The XL, or 40ftr only has 1 wheelbase.

The 45's have 2 different wheelbases 1 for the motorhomes and charters and 1 for the entertainer chassis.

In 1994 the first year Prevo came out with the 60 series they coupled it with the 740 5 speed Allison trans so if you are looking for some info go find a 94 chassis.

IMO that 94 is the best year to get. I do not think the 6 speed is as good a tranny as the 5 speed.

When they started the 6 speed in 95 they altered the axle housing with a hump to create clearance.

If you want a 6 speed in that 87 I believe you will need the newer tag axle configuration. If you go with the 5 speed I believe it will fit.
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blue_goose

If a H755 will fit then a world 6 speed is shorter and should be no problem to put in
Jack