Shifter cable length for 102a3 with 740 trans.

[luvrbus]

Jack, I don't understand your disadvantages comments about the Stone/Bennett you need air to move a bus period,they won't allow a shut down in gear if the wiring is correct I have owned a Stone shifter in buses for over 20 years and never had a problem yet.
I am not a big fan of the hydraulic controlled Stone but love the air controlled unit


good luck

[JackConrad]

Cliff,
   I did not know the Stone-Bennett would prevent the engine from shutting off in gear.  After having done this a time or 2 (OK, a few more times than that) with my cable control, I was thinking that if I did that with a Stone-Bennett I would have to access the transmission to correct the problem.  I learn something new every day.  Jack

[hargreaves]

 Merry Christmas everyone!  Jack would you know how much the Stone Bennett costs and where to purchase it?

[buswarrior]

I will reinforce the idea that you want whatever shifting device you choose to fall readily to your hand.

You don't want to place it where you need to reach.

You will be using it, once you get a demonstration of how much better/smoother/faster/quieter the coach performs under different conditions, if you make the shifting decisions instead of the machine.

My favorite is the MC8 vintage shifter, which has a series of offset notches for each gear. Never have to look down to know which gear. The later simple in-line shifter, each click is the same as the last.

For the earlier 102, the shift tower tucks tightly inside the driver courtesy panel, with the shift handle somewhat ahead of the parking brake control. IIRC, I don't think MCI had different panels for each application.

happy coaching!
buswarrior