coolant/water fliter?
 

coolant/water fliter?

Started by Adarian, October 07, 2009, 05:44:11 PM

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Adarian

Are all coolant/water filters sca filters?
If so how do you know the sca level they provide, if already installed on engine?
1978 Gillig 636D
CAT 3208 Allison MT 643
NLAAF Fitness Bus
Fair Oaks Ca

belfert

You can get filters without SCA charge.  I have one with no SCA charge.

There should a part number on the filter you have that you can check with the manufacturer.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Ncbob

I should think that the determining factor would be whether or not you have a wet sleeve engine. My 8V71 has a coolant filter which I change every year but I don't have to worry much because the Detroits of the 71 series are liner to block engines.

FWIW

NCbob

redbus

When do you NOT want the SCA charge.
Terry
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belfert

You don't want a filter with SCA charge if you don't want your coolant to be under/overcharged with SCA.  I monitor my SCA level and add as necessary instead of the coolant filter adding a predetermined amount of SCA.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

TomC

L10 is a wet cylinder liner engine that should be closely monitored as to acidity levels in the coolant to keep the liners from getting pitted.  Simple litmus paper dipping into the coolant will tell the story.  You can add the SCA by pouring directly into the radiator, or by slow release through the water filter.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

John316

Is our S60 a "fragile" engine?

God bless.

John

Posted from my Itouch.
Sold - MCI 1995 DL3. DD S60 with a Allison B500.

TomC

Not carefully watched, a Series 60 also can fall prey to cavitation pitting and electrolysis.  I've seen Series 60 with as little as 200,000 miles on a new truck that had to be rebuilt because of neglect of the cooling system.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Adarian

Learned that the filter is a pencool nf3000, by Penray. Went to the website, it didn't contain very much info.
1978 Gillig 636D
CAT 3208 Allison MT 643
NLAAF Fitness Bus
Fair Oaks Ca

belfert

The website listing for the NF-3000 is pretty clear about it having a pint of SCA.  There is an NF-2999 that has no SCA.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Adarian

All Pencool 3000 Cooling System Filters combine a high-quality, long-life Pencool Filter with one pint or more of Pencool 3000 Cooling System Corrosion Inhibitor and Coolant Stabilizer. It's the only high performance filter that can stop coolant gel formation.

What does 1 pint or more mean?
Does it mix in all at once or is it timed released?

This web site
http://www.imcool.com/articles/antifreeze-coolant/SCA-Part1.htm

says 1 pint treats 4 gallons, I think the L10 capacity is more than 4 gallons.
From the reading it doesn't seem like DCA4 and Pencool 3000 should be mixed.




1978 Gillig 636D
CAT 3208 Allison MT 643
NLAAF Fitness Bus
Fair Oaks Ca

John316

Thanks Tom. That is what I thought. I hope we won't have any issues. What are some of the "trouble" signs?

God bless.

John

Posted from my Itouch.
Sold - MCI 1995 DL3. DD S60 with a Allison B500.

TomC

About the only time you know you might have trouble is when one of the cylinder liners lets loose into the coolant and the combustion chamber pumps pressure into the cooling system causing the radiator to loose coolant.  It is easy to test for this also, by taking a gas reading off the radiator.  Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.