How much is this coach worth?

[ilyafish]

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/rvs/1217278761.html

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i know theres not a ton of information on the coach, but just a rough estimated value

[ilyafish]

sorry for the double picture, i meant this

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3846/1985prevost022.jpg

[gmpd4104]

not near enough info to make a rough guess at worth in my opinion.

I generally find one of two things is true in something like this......

it is either a hell of a deal because the people know nothing.........

or it is an awefull dealbecause the people know nothing.

holds true no matter what your buying when there is no info or photos

[compedgemarine]

I agree on the lack of info. does it have a shower? with 8 bunks sounds like it was an entertainer which could be good or bad. if you are really interested have them send you a detailed description of the features and brands of accessories.

[ilyafish]

It is an entertainer, which is what i am looking for.  Not sure about a shower...i messaged him for more details on the conversion

[gmpd4104]

i'd be looking at his MCI

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-MCI-ENTERTAINERS-COACH_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a317Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp4506Q2ec0Q2em245QQhashZitem2ea60046d4QQitemZ200353531604QQptZBusesQQsalenotsupported

[belfert]

It is interesting that the same guy is selling both buses, but he'll takes trades on only one of the two.

[ilyafish]

gmpd, i looked at that bus and though it is beautiful on the outside, i am not a fan of the interior finishing.  though it is something that i can do, i am looking for something that i can buy and have minimal modifications to do (and i am aware that comes with a price).

belfert...that is interesting.  not sure the reasoning behind that.

[ilyafish]

Ok, here is the details from the seller on the conversion

Starcrown Coach

Coach:  "Baby"  1985 Prevost LeMirage XL    8 Bunk Sleeper 

Price:      Original interior build cost $175,000 US.

Contact:  Terry Whitfield  or  Dave Hand

Phone:    1-866-865-2287

E-mail:     sales@starcrowncoach.com

Location:  London, Ontario


1985 Prevost LeMirage XL  2004 Entertainer coach by Starcrown Coach.

VIN: 2P9L33407F1001911
This is a refurbished coach and a complete new interior and exterior conversion.

40 Ft. 102" wide.

Safety and engine emissions certified 2002/2004.

Engine: 8V-71 (rebuilt) Transmission: (re-built)

Seating Capacity: 11 Sleeping Capacity: 8

Driver's Area: Sony AM/FM, CD with remote, driver's air-ride seat, Flexsteel recline and swivel buddy seat, Ramco heated mirrors. Coach remote operating panel.

Front Lounge: Dometic full size refrigerator, Dometic Microwave, Coffeemaker, 

Panasonic Entertainment centre: 32" TV, CD, DVD, VCR, surround sound, in-motion satellite dish, overhead storage.

Bunk Area: 8 bunks with individual vent controls, convenience outlets, and storage.

Rear Lounge:  Toshiba TV, VCR combination, closet and storage cupboards.

Electrical: Lombardini Diesel 20KW Generator (remote start) in sound box, Xantrex Prosine 3000 inverter, recessed direct and indirect lighting throughout, alarm system.

Plumbing: Tecma Prestige electric toilet, 60 Gallon fresh, 40 Gallon black,

40 Gallon gray, heated bay.

HVAC: Bus heat and a/c, 3 Dometic 13,500 BTU low profile roof airs with heat strips.

Interior: Finished in black and tans. Walls and ceiling in suede and/or laminate. Cabinets in imported birdseye laminate. Lined drawers and cupboards. Roman blinds on windows with matching material on privacy and bunk curtains. Sound suppression system.

Exterior: Finished in black and tan. New paint.  Polished lower. Starcrown fiberglass composite window panels.

Additional features not listed.


another invoice


Starcrown Coach
Vehicle Description:

Year:  1985       Make: Prevost            Model:  LeMirage

V.I.N.:  -----

Motor:  8V71 Detroit Diesel                  Transmission: Spicer 6

Particulars:  The coach is sold as is and without warranty. Safety completed September 2005. (passed). Emissions test October 2004 - 05. (passed)

Exterior

Front cap: new Prevost cap       Rear cap:  no

Lower panels: polish yes high gloss  paint ___   no changes ____

Upper panel:   paint yes two tone  no changes ___

Body work:   as required lower baggage door vented panel not required ___

Window panels:  Starcrown fiberglass window panels

Window style:     2 Prevost RV slider windows

Coach style:  entertainer model

Bus: 85 Prevost LeMirage

Code: Baby ll 
General Conveniences
Custom  exterior

-Windows blocked as per design with Starcrown panels

-Polished lower sides.

-2 colour paint.

-Wheel simulators

-Ramco heated mirrors
-Custom interior décor. 
-Imported Birdseye laminate on all cupboards and doors. (washable surfaces)
-Counter tops in gloss laminate.
-Designer door handles and drawer pulls.
-12 volt recessed pot lighting throughout.
-Indirect accent rope lighting at floor level and in crown molding.

-Upgraded wall sconce lighting on individual controls where appropriate.

-120 volt wall receptacles.
-Door actuated lighting in cupboards.

-Cupboards and drawers mat lined.

-Friction drawer pulls on all drawers and cabinets.
-Suede headliner.
-Commercial grade vinyl fabric covered window boxes/valences.

-Covered sills in black mat material.

-Roman shade window coverings.
-Suede fabric or laminate on sidewalls.
-Commercial weight carpet.

-Commercial weight tile in galley and bath.

-Sound insulation barrier along rear wall of coach.



Driver's Area and Front Entry

-Lighted front entry.

-Driver's air ride seat.

-Driver's lined map compartment.

-Driver's personal CD player.

-Cup holder.

-Control panel for coach systems.

Front Lounge Amenities
-Custom built lounge sofas with lined drawers in the base.

-Flexsteel swivel, recline, ultraleather captain chair.
-Mood lights at floor level.
-Full entertainment centre -32" color TV w/remote control, CD/DVD player, VCR.

-In-motion satellite dish. (Customer must choose Satellite provider, hardware and software

card.)

-Crown molding trim with indirect rope light.

-Decorator privacy curtain.

-Overhead storage.   

Galley Amenities

-Galley cabinet with three drawers and waste container.
-Laminate galley countertops. 
-Single galley sink with single lever faucet. 
-Dometic Microwave oven. 
-Dometic refrigerator with freezer.
-Clear bevel strip mirrors on galley walls. 
-Recessed 12 volt lighting. 
-Flush mounted spotlights under galley cupboards. 
-Mood lights in cabinet toe kicks.

-Overhead storage

Bath Amenities
-Laminate vanity countertop.
-Custom vanity sink and single lever faucet.
-Specialty lighting on vanity overhead.

-Custom vanity accessories. 
-Vanity mirror.
-Electrically operated Tecma Prestige china toilet.

-Additional overhead storage cupboards.

-Side pocket storage along wall.   

Bunk  Area

-Side walls in laminate and designer fabric.

-Five inch foam factory covered mattress.

-AC outlet.

-Personal drawer storage.

-Privacy curtain.

-Padded bunk rail.

-Privacy in bunk lighting.

-Recessed aisle pot lights.

-Rope lighting at floor level.


Rear Lounge

-Custom built lounge sofa.
-Mood lights at floor.

-Wardrobe closet.

-Lined cupboards.

-Accent mirror(s).                                                                                                                                     

-Work desk.

-TV/VCR combination

Heating & Cooling Systems
-Front lounge and Galley 13,500 BTU cooling. 
-Bunks 13,500 BTU cooling. 
-Rear lounge 13,500 BTU cooling.
-Three 13,500 BTU low profile Dometic roof air conditioning units with heat strips.

-Thermostatically controlled zone heat and air conditioning.

-Bus HVAC.

Electrical Power Sources
-12 volt battery disconnect switch.

-Auto power transfer switch. 
-Water-cooled 20 kw. diesel generator.

-Air circulating sound dampened generator box.

-Generator slide.   
-Generator remote start in driver's area. 
-Xantrex Prosine 3.0 inverter with remote and heat sensor.

-Four heavy duty deep cycle batteries.
-Belt driven 165 amp alternator for 12 volt house system.

-All general purpose receptacles with GFI protection 

Plumbing Features
-Fresh water system composed of freeze-protected cross-linked PEX
-Manabloc" valved system on hot and cold water 
-Rapid recovery electric hot water heater. 
-12 volt water pump w/accumulator tank 
-Separate sewer hose carrier compartment 
-City water connection via fresh water hose 
-Black tank flush system 
-Storage tanks. 60 gallon fresh water, 40 gallon gray water, 40 gallon black water.

-Heated plumbing bay.


NB. Materials and prices subject to change without notice.

[ilyafish]

another listing for this bus i found with info

http://www.bargainbusnews.com/Buses/1261-1985PrevostLeMirageXL/

[Garymci5]

No doubt it's a very nice looking coach and shows evidence of being professionally converted. In short the first major issue I would have is the driveline. If it's indeed a non-turbo 8V71 DD and a manual 6spd, this drastically takes away value. Generally speaking most coaches were using turbo's by the mid 80's....it's possible the engine was "downgraded".

From experience I would never, ever, buy another 40' coach w/o a turbo. There's just not enough power for anything but cruising the flats-- the 6spd will sure help and you'll no doubt need it-- hope it's a syncro, otherwise happy trails double clutching all day long (!).

While it's a very sharp looking bus (hard to REALLY tell with the low-res pics), the driveline is a major let down, and will likely cost you in the future, when it's time to sell it, or consider the huge investment to repower with something adequate. Also, the MPG will likely be miserable-- always driving with the "pedal to the metal".

In today's market, an educated buyer is something to reckon with.

Hopefully a Prevost roles a lot better than an Eagle (that i had; and just 2K miles on a $20K engine rebuild) 

[Tenor]

I gotta agree with Steve - the driveline is the weak link.  I'm also surprised that it is not turbo.  Offer the guy 20K, if you really like to shift, and see what happens!  The market is tanked, so shoot low.  Good luck!

Glenn

[Garymci5]

i'd be looking at his MCI

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1990-MCI-ENTERTAINERS-COACH_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c72Q3a317Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp4506Q2ec0Q2em245QQhashZitem2ea60046d4QQitemZ200353531604QQptZBusesQQsalenotsupported

Now, this bus has potential. But, only four pictures...?

[Len Silva]

Since you are in the business and looking for an entertainer, you most likely know what to look for. Some are well maintained (and that one looks pretty clean) but many are badly abused.  50,000 miles between oil changes is not going to show up in a casual inspection.  You won't know about a marginal cooling system until you really stress it.

If it was used on tour and has had only one driver for a while, that's the guy I would take out for a couple of beers.

[RickB]

Iminaccess,

i talked to this guy a few weeks back because a friend was interested in the MCI. Seemed like he has alot of experience with buses, that said good luck