HT740 slipping when about to shift?
 

HT740 slipping when about to shift?

Started by hogi6123, December 16, 2021, 01:09:37 PM

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hogi6123

When my HT740 is shifting into a higher gear, if I have the gas pedal less than about 1/2 way down it shifts like I would expect, pretty much immediately from one gear to the next.

When I have the gas pedal more than 1/2 way down, the engine RPMs go up when shifting, like the transmission is slipping or unlocked, for a few seconds before it shifts.  I think the more the gas pedal is down, the longer it does this between shifts.

This never happens while it's in gear.

There are no electronic controls for my engine or transmission.

Does anyone know what is causing this?
1981 MC-9

Van

I'm Guessing your modulator might be out of adjustment. do you have an air throttle? If not check the Modulator cable attachment point on your throttle linkage, might have come undone. ;)
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

hogi6123

Thanks, No air throttle.  It looks like the modulator cable is attached but definitely could be out of adjustment.
1981 MC-9

hogi6123

Is the transmission supposed to downshift when I really stomp on the pedal while driving?
1981 MC-9

Van

That depends on speed, rpm's and gear selected.
Quote from: hogi6123 on December 16, 2021, 02:18:41 PM
Thanks, No air throttle.  It looks like the modulator cable is attached but definitely could be out of adjustment.
Good time to check your throttle cable adjustment.
B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

chessie4905

"This never happens while it is in gear"??? Has to be in gear to move.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

buswarrior

Where are you, and any former coach drivers nearby?

Find someone that has driven a few and have them take it for a drive.

Absolute waste of time and risk of making a problem, if there is none.

They are "automatic" in that they don't have a clutch, they are not very smart, and require driver involvement, for smooth and decisive operation.

The good coach drivers ran 2-3-4 themselves, with the shifter, not allowing the transmission to shift unless it was wanted.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

hogi6123

I know it's not acting normally.  I'm totally comfortable with checking the modulator cable movement and understanding how to adjust it.  I don't know how that could be a waste of time, I learn something else about my bus and maybe fix something.
1981 MC-9

hogi6123

Quote from: chessie4905 on December 16, 2021, 04:51:21 PM
"This never happens while it is in gear"??? Has to be in gear to move.

:D  ;) But while the selector is "in gear" the transmission is not exactly "in gear" while it's shifting from one gear to the next.
1981 MC-9

windtrader

The experts weighing in. I only have some bits of common sense but if the transition really does take a few seconds to shift gears then something is out of adjustment. Mine has a couple slightly different oddities during some shifting scenarios but far more muted that I just ride off to aged equipment just acting its age.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

chessie4905

Hopefully an adjustment will fix it but that slipping is wearing the fiber off the clutch plates.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Start by checking the shift cable adjustment make sure it's centered, check your pressures at the rear and torque converter could be weak clutches or it needs to be serviced does it happen in all gears
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