2 strokes and Kalifornia

[buswarrior]

It isn't about targeting, it is about getting swept up in careless wording.

The old days are gone, the sloppiness of legislative writing is an historical embarressment to those who went before.

We will be caught out by ommission, not targeting.

That is why quiet, patient vigilance is required by a paid observer.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[richard5933]

It isn't about targeting, it is about getting swept up in careless wording.

The old days are gone, the sloppiness of legislative writing is an historical embarressment to those who went before.

We will be caught out by ommission, not targeting.

That is why quiet, patient vigilance is required by a paid observer.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

Agree with this. Someone needs to read every bill proposed. They have a habit of sticking stuff like this in the oddest places and with bills that are not related in any way.

[Jim Blackwood]

You have to keep in mind that politicians and lawmakers are some of the wiliest people on the planet, they have an agenda they are pursuing that may not be either honorable or legal, and they are accomplished masters of obfustication. The end result of which is not hard to predict.

Jim

[windtrader]

The solution to financing the DOT budget will not stop at taxing charge stations. As stated before more electricity on the grid will come from residential PV roof tops. I guess the high power car chargers could be mandated to include a meter that is connected to the tax man but it is something to ponder how EV will get whacked by the tax man.
One other obvious place once the momentum crosses the point of no return is to screw you at the DMV. Just tack on a grand or two at registration time.
One thing is certain. Roads cost money and the government will find a way to extract it from us one way or another.

I'm just going to keep building ebikes. screw cars.

[dtcerrato]

How about a horse or a camel?

[richard5933]

The problem about taxation for vehicles isn't where they get their electricity. The problem is that we now have vehicles using the roadways which use various fuels - they are not all using a petroleum product, and up till now the road taxes have been paid based on fuel consumption.

The taxes on fuel are nothing more than a use tax. Long ago they figured that the number of gallons used was a good indicator of the number of miles driven and how much you used the roads. That calculation no longer holds.

I predict that in the end we're going to move to an actual use-based tax - the more miles you drive the more you pay. Don't drive much, then you don't pay much.

With the technology in vehicles today it would be quite easy to transition to this kind of system moving forward, and I'm surprised that we haven't heard more talk of it than we have.

[JT4SC]

I think the fact we are a small, nearly invisible group makes legislating our busses out of CA much easier, not the other way around.  Some *cough*leftist*cough* politician trying to gain the admiration of environmentalists could point to their ability to close emissions loopholes as a badge of honor.  We are low hanging fruit in this regard.
This kind of politician doesn't seem too far-fetched to me, considering all the other nonsense Sacramento comes up with.