Entrance Door Airlock Overrule
 

Entrance Door Airlock Overrule

Started by GnarlyBus, July 13, 2018, 11:26:01 AM

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GnarlyBus

What does this overrule lever actually do? I see that it's missing a ball knob. If I set it at about halfway down it lets air out...

The manual talks about microswitches and solenoids involved in entrance door operation, but mine appears totally mechanical. The door locks shut when the door is shut hard or from the inside with the mechanical handle. It can be opened by pushing in the knob on the front of the bus. Am I missing something?
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

lostagain

It is missing a red ball on the end of it. In the up position pulled toward you, the air operated claw pulls the door tight. In the down position, the claw retracts so you can open the door in an emergency. Otherwise the claw is controlled by the handle and by the button outside on the front of the bus. Look in the manual to see the details.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

lostagain

It is missing a red ball on the end of it. In the up position pulled toward you, the air operated claw pulls the door tight. In the down position, the claw retracts so you can open the door in an emergency. Otherwise the claw is controlled by the handle and by the button outside on the front of the bus. Look in the manual to see the details.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

GnarlyBus

Quote from: lostagain on July 13, 2018, 12:21:13 PM
It is missing a red ball on the end of it. In the up position pulled toward you, the air operated claw pulls the door tight. In the down position, the claw retracts so you can open the door in an emergency. Otherwise the claw is controlled by the handle and by the button outside on the front of the bus. Look in the manual to see the details.

JC

This doesn't sound like how my bus is. I've read the Maintenance and Operators Manuals. My setup doesn't seem to match this. This overrule seems to do nothing. The door is shut by the handle inside the bus which seems to hold it tight and released by the button outside the bus. I don't see any other mechanisms.

So, if the overrule is depressed, the door won't lock no matter what position the manual handle is in?

Where is this "claw"?
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

lostagain

The claw is air operated and is located on the left side of the door looking at it from the outside (opposite the hinge side). In the OEM configuration, the claw always pulls the door in tight when it is closed. It is a good feature because it reduces the wind noise at speed. The purpose of the red lever is to overrule the system to get out of the bus in an emergency. All buses have a similar system for safety. Now who knows what a previous owner has done to it...

You can see the air cylinder that operates the claw from inside the spare tire compartment.

JC 
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

GnarlyBus

Hmmm. I'll have to get into the spare tire area and look for it. I'm thinking somehow mine doesn't have this. On my door, the non-hinge side is totally smooth.

Wind noise was an issue until I installed a surface mount deadbolt.
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

Dave5Cs

To the left of the stairs there might still be a panel SS that can be removed and the mechanism is behind that on some. Ours was taken out but the cylinder and relays were still in there. but no claw. :)
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

GnarlyBus

Ok, I can see now on the door and next to it where the old mechanism was. I guess I don't need this lever anymore then.

Thanks for the help everyone!
1984 MC-9 w/ 6v92TA & Allison 740
Oregon Summers & Arizona Winters
Full-Time since 2015

jraynor

This is what mine looks like as you enter the bus on the left hand side. 1986 TMC 102A3
Jonathan
1986 TMC 102A3 6V92TA Currently Under Reno

brmax

Good day there

In the topic I got a question: do some of these doors have an arch on the lock, latch or wheel side.

I ask for one, as there are post through many years discussing different handle latch mechanisims installed. I guess in the same general area as the claw or lock.



Floyd
1992 MC9
6V92
Allison