Oil lines - what standard are they?
 

Oil lines - what standard are they?

Started by Gordie Allen, August 20, 2016, 05:30:49 PM

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Gordie Allen

I have a 4104 with a 670 in it. I've got some oil lines to replace. Are these "an" fittings? I can't find a local source and I don't want to buy the wrong thing. I know "an" was developed during WWII and the 670 preceded WWII, so I'm just checking.
Augusta, MI
1956 4104
DD 671

luvrbus

Most DD used JIC 37 degree fitting or SAE
Life is short drink the good wine first

Gordie Allen

Clifford,
So do you know if -an and JIC have the same thread pitch?
Augusta, MI
1956 4104
DD 671

thomasinnv

The thread is not what makes the difference, it is the angle on the flare. Jic are 37° and sae are 45°. They may or may not have the same thread pitch depending on where it was made.
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)

chessie4905

SAE nuts are sometimes marked if you look closely.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

Debo

Every once in a while, one of mine will look suspect or start leaking. As that's happening, I've been replacing mine with AN fittings and hoses from summitracing.com.

I used to travel in the aviation world, and I understand them more, plus they're widely available online at these speed shops like Summit. Just my way of doing it...
1981 MCI MC9
Detroit 8V-71N
Spicer 4-Speed Manual
Outer Banks, NC (Kitty Hawk)

Jim Eh.

"AN" stands for Army/Navy. It is more a performance spec than a thread pitch or flare design but is considered 37 degree as is an SAE flare. It was done to standardize aircraft fittings. Today's "AN" are for the most part not true AN fittings just the internet equivalent. Just try pricing out a true AN fitting for an aircraft and you will soon find the $3.49 Ebay fitting should cost $50.49
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

luvrbus

Don't the true AN have a taper to the threads I know they are pricey I had to buy a few for my helicopter kit that were missing
Life is short drink the good wine first

c-coop

the original fittings on 2 stroke detroits  are inverted flare    the hose end has a flare with a male threaded nut on it