PD 4104-3856 History

pennuja · September 10, 2014, 06:24:03 PM

I just purchased 4104-3856 and I would like to see if there is any history that I am missing. The seller was told when he purchased it that the bus originally came from the Santa Fe Bus Company and it was purchased to be used as a trainer bus. If this is incorrect or there is any more info I would love to hear about it.

Thanks
Jim

luvrbus · September 10, 2014, 06:34:34 PM

I don't about it being a trainer it was part of a 9 bus order to the Santa Fe railroad I read but RJ will know for sure

pennuja · September 10, 2014, 06:45:03 PM

I was thinking that it was a bus used to bring passengers to the railroad I found a writeup from the ebay listing that said it as "Train Bus program", maybe he stated it incorrectly or I misunderstood.

Thanks!

luvrbus · September 10, 2014, 07:14:15 PM

I thought they were used to haul passengers from the depot to the Santa Fe resorts in CO don't know for sure RJ will .

I don't know what the number it was but there was one at the Santa Fe head quarters in Winslow Az for years now it is gone I don't have any idea where it went but it was seated kinda a executive coach and ran it still had the little Continental gas engine for the AC that worked, it was a clean 4104 all original I would liked to had it

RJ · September 10, 2014, 07:47:53 PM

Jim -

PD4104-3856 was delivered new in May of 1958 as fleet number B-153 to The Atchison, Topeka & Sante Fe Ry System, HQ'd in Chicago, IL at the time.

Back then, Santa Fe, as well as several other railroads, had quite a few feeder routes to their main rail lines. Conceptually similar to what Amtrak's doing today. (What's old is new?)

As to your coach's actual usage for AT&SF, I have no clue. However, it wouldn't make sense to use a brand new coach specifically for training purposes on a regular bases. Nearly every coach company will have some sort of orientation class for staff when a new coach model hits the property, but that will normally only last a week or two. After that, it's into revenue service to earn it's keep.

FWIW & HTH. . .

mung · September 10, 2014, 07:51:02 PM

Anyone have the history of 4228 that I found today?

pennuja · September 10, 2014, 07:59:06 PM

Thanks RJ.

siberyd · September 11, 2014, 05:06:12 PM

Jim,

I was checking my notes today and found a sister bus to yours 4104-3858 is alive and well as a conversion in Lodi California.

Siberyd

RJ · September 11, 2014, 11:52:56 PM

Quote from: mung on September 10, 2014, 07:51:02 PM
Anyone have the history of 4228 that I found today?

Vern -

PD4104-4228 was delivered new in July of 1959 as fleet number X-127 to Southern Stages, HQ'd in Macon, GA.

FWIW & HTH. . .

mung · September 12, 2014, 04:33:21 AM

Thanks. I will let him know and maybe I can convince him to actually do something with the bus.