94 Eagle 45Foot

Van · December 08, 2009, 02:50:28 PM

Paul , here is the last one on the 70000 production list that I have,it seems to be for a 1990
1EUBN8A11LBO70444 AE15LT PROTRAV Services Inc. (CA) 1020 6/90 To ABC Bus Sales Inc. (CA) The last 5 digits for my 89 are 70287

Rick check for the manuals too

rickg352 · December 08, 2009, 03:24:58 PM

No manuals no paper work. Bus was repoed and nothing in it. I have to pay the bank and then I get the title. They said they drove it 6 hours and it ran as it should. Told me the spedo does not work and some lights on the dash, it is the original Eagle dash, I think. They said gen works and AC and fridge also. I live in Ocala fl. and have a friend in Whitesboro Tx. Fly into dfw monday and will look at bus tues morning. It is in Greenville Tx. Thanks again Rick

Dreamscape · December 08, 2009, 03:40:21 PM

Van,

Maybe "The King of Eagles" will help us out.

1EUDN6A18KBO90170 AE20 New Jersey Transit (NJ) 5618 1989

Then I find this in the 7000 series.

1EUBN8A11LBO70444 AE15LT PROTRAV Services Inc. (CA) 1020 6/90 To ABC Bus Sales Inc. (CA)

It looks like they are different depending on model, I had not studied so "My Bad"!

Rick,

We'll get this sorted out one way or another. Take your camera and get lots of pictures. Are you going to get someone bus qualified to inspect it before you head out?

Paul

rusty · December 08, 2009, 04:54:21 PM

My 96 15/45 has the vin# stamped in the plate the compressor sits on , on the curb side right inside the engine door.

Good Luck Wayne

Van · December 08, 2009, 05:58:11 PM

Same here Wayne, I wonder if our Guru has the super secret list with him

SmoothJazz · December 08, 2009, 06:11:16 PM

Here is different Serial Numbers and what they were designated for. This is for Eagle Coaches produced in Brownsville, Texas.

Serial No. 19500-20196 Model 05
Serial No. 20197-20661 Model 10 Trailways
Serial No. 30100-30173 Model 05 Private Carriers
Serial No. 30174-31661 Model 10 Private Carriers
Serial No. 31662-31669 Model 20X Private Carriers
Note: Model 20X had Model 10 front end and Model 20 sides. Transition Period
Serial No. 40001-40018 Model 10S & 10SC Trailways, Two axle buses
Serial No. 50001-50064 Model 10S Private Carriers, Two axle buses
Serial No. 60000-60013 Model 10R Australia right hand drive
Serial No. 70001-70449 Model 15 Private Carriers
Serial No. 80000-80160 Model 15 Trailways/Greyhound
Serial No. 90000-90251 Model 20 Private Carriers
Serial No. 11000-11328 Model 15/45 Conversion, 45 foot
Serial No. 12001-12004 Model 15/35 Note: Serial No. 70241 was first 15/35 demo. 35 foot
Serial No. 13001-13017 Model 15/40 Conversion Two axle buses
Serial No. 01000-higher Model 15 Seated Coach
Serial No. 04000-higher Model 15 Conversion
Serial No. 06000-higher Buses delivered to Mexico

Serial/VIN numbers were located on a plate mounted above the drivers window and in the engine compartment, as you open the engine door, look to the lower right tube just above the center bumper or stamped in the A/C compressor mounting plate on the later models.

This may all be a little confusing, but for the most part it is accurate. There were VIN numbers within the above that were never produced and there were several serial numbers that were duplicated. Too many little quirks in the system to list here. If you have questions, I will try to answer them.

All Brownsville production buses were 96 inch wide except for the Model 15's.

Dan

Dreamscape · December 08, 2009, 06:38:53 PM

Dan,

That explains a lot as I was not understanding how it was handled. You might want to explain about the Eagle VIN plate that was removed when a coach conversion builder would make it their own.

It's always good talking with you, as your knowledge regarding Eagle is right on!

Paul

SmoothJazz · December 08, 2009, 07:12:02 PM

That's correct Paul, when a company such as Hercules or Caldwell Brothers converted these coaches, they went deep enough into them in the refurbishing/conversion process, that their states would allow them to re-title the coaches for the year they converted them and because they had manufacturing licenses in their states, they were able to assign new VIN numbers. Therefore, any old identification of serial or VIN numbers were removed and new ones installed.

I am not providing this information in any way to condemn the work of these converters; however, I feel it is important for people to know that this practice of a coach being re-titled was very common, especially with Eagle Coaches. So in this case, the 1994 Eagle Conversion may have started out as an older Eagle Coach, what year, who knows. There are different things one can look for, but it is hard to narrow it down. BUYER BEWARE! That's why these bulletin boards exist, to assist people and share information, so make sure you ask questions first and then you can make informed decisions.

Dan

rickg352 · December 08, 2009, 07:20:04 PM

Learning a lot of good info from all of you. Was going to take a buddy of mine who is a welder by trade. All I hear about is rust on Eagle frames,so I guess I should start looking there. I have owned two diesel motor homes over the last 8 years. First was a 89 Executive on a Gillig 3208 next was a safari 8.3 cummins. Allways dreamed of a buss and my own floor plan the way I like it. I guess there is a big difference between a buss like this and my other motor homes, never drove one so I hope I like it much better. If all works out I am looking forward to the project. never did any posting like this before and it shure is helpfull in making decisions. Thanks

SmoothJazz · December 08, 2009, 07:28:59 PM

Rick,

Send me a PM on how to contact you.

Dan

DaveG · December 08, 2009, 08:03:23 PM

Hey Dan, thanks for the information...would be nice to store that info somewhere...let's see, I'll save it to a file and then to my hard drive...okay, mind is ona roll...gotta go.

BusCrazyinFL · December 08, 2009, 08:20:46 PM

Guys, does "Trailways Red" on the Eagle board sound familiar? Rick, I have a Hercules Coach and what Dan said is right. My Eagle is titled as an 1988 but is actually a 1972. You will most likely not find the original vin anywhere on that bus. Go to the Eagle board and read how I finally found it.

Van · December 08, 2009, 08:25:01 PM

http://www.eaglesinternational.net/

Dreamscape · December 08, 2009, 09:01:13 PM

Rick,

You may hear about rust on Eagle frames, it all depends on where it spent it's life. I was very fortunate, our 68 Eagle 01 has very minimal rust. Don't get me wrong, it does have some, just not on the frame. It's mostly between the rear axle and tag, under the aluminum skin on one side. The other side had been previously repaired. Open the front electrical door on the driver side and take a peak, also maybe the framing for the bays. If it spent most of it's life in a dry climate, it shouldn't be too bad.

Good Luck,

Paul