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Eagle VS. Prevost for conversion.

Started by Phil, May 18, 2016, 03:32:56 PM

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chessie4905

Buswarrior, right on. Short, concise, and accurate.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

DoubleEagle

Yes, it is the joy of creation first; being able to go on a trip and camp is a bonus. It is still wise to locate a partial conversion or an entertainer if possible. At the right right price, it will be cheaper than buying all the materials needed. Now that the prices are lower than ever for the value you get, it makes full conversions less practical.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Scott & Heather

Look at it this way Phil, some of the gentleman on the forum will attempt to convince you that buying a pre-converted coach is really the easiest, most economical way to go. This is true. If after all the advice, you decide to build your own, and you succeed, and post photos here of your process and your completed coach, then you have the respect of all. They are just trying to weed out the talkers from the walkers if you get my drift. As Walter mentioned, we are on conversion number two and we are 31 and 33 with a 7 month old baby girl. If we can do it, anyone can do it. But I can say this: the new coach conversion is costing more $$$ because we are going above and beyond making it just right for us. We learned a lot on our first conversion and it's a nice coach. We are still living in it while we work on our new bus parked about 3 feet away. At least until the end of June. We sold our old bus and another sweet family will be getting all the joy with minimal sweat :) if you are relatively young, I can tell you without a doubt if you complete one conversion, you'll likely do another one someday.


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

Jon

There is a key element in this discussion............AGE.

I still do virtually everything needed on my coach by myself. But I can say for sure my endurance and strength is nowhere near what it used to be and while I still do the same things, they take longer.

Another excellent point should be noted by all. Despite how well bus number one turned out, you make it clear bus number two is going to go above and beyond.
Jon

Current coach 2006 Prevost, Liberty conversion
Knoxville, TN

DoubleEagle

Quote from: Jon on May 24, 2016, 04:56:27 AM
There is a key element in this discussion............AGE.

I still do virtually everything needed on my coach by myself. But I can say for sure my endurance and strength is nowhere near what it used to be and while I still do the same things, they take longer.

Another excellent point should be noted by all. Despite how well bus number one turned out, you make it clear bus number two is going to go above and beyond.

Another reason why it takes us longer to do things (in my estimation) is that we reminisce about past projects while doing the current one, and if we use parts from previous coaches, images of past repairs and adventures pop up in our minds. When our significant other catches us just standing there staring at a part or whole coach and ask why we are not doing anything, they don't understand that we are. Creating things and solving the problems that come up is a satisfying experience, despite the cuts, burns, and bruises.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

luvrbus

Quote from: Jon on May 24, 2016, 04:56:27 AM
There is a key element in this discussion............AGE.

I still do virtually everything needed on my coach by myself. But I can say for sure my endurance and strength is nowhere near what it used to be and while I still do the same things, they take longer.

Another excellent point should be noted by all. Despite how well bus number one turned out, you make it clear bus number two is going to go above and beyond.

Lol I noticed the 250 lbs head torque seem harder to pull but I blamed on the torque wrench now I know the problem  ;D
Life is short drink the good wine first

thomasinnv

Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 24, 2016, 05:55:57 AM
Another reason why it takes us longer to do things (in my estimation) is that we reminisce about past projects while doing the current one, and if we use parts from previous coaches, images of past repairs and adventures pop up in our minds. When our significant other catches us just standing there staring at a part or whole coach and ask why we are not doing anything, they don't understand that we are. Creating things and solving the problems that come up is a satisfying experience, despite the cuts, burns, and bruises.
I couldn't help but chuckle as I read this. You nailed it. Several times I found myself standing and staring endlessly as the wheels creaked and groaned in my mind trying to "find a better way than the last one"
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)

DoubleEagle

Quote from: luvrbus on May 24, 2016, 06:02:47 AM
 

Lol I noticed the 250 lbs head torque seem harder to pull but I blamed on the torque wrench now I know the problem  ;D

Just put a pipe on the torque wrench, it will not know the difference and it will think a young buck is pulling it.  ;D
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 24, 2016, 06:27:48 AM
Just put a pipe on the torque wrench, ... ;D 

    Yep, the ole "Georgia torque wrench" solved many a problem - made a lot more.   ;D  ;D  ;D
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Seangie

Back to the original topic...

Prevost or Eagle?

We own an Eagle, Wife still loves me.  Nuff said.

Any questions?
'Cause you know we,
we live in a van (Eagle 10 Suburban)
Driving through the night
To that old promised land'

Scott & Heather

Walters comment made me chuckle too. I can't tell you how many times I've just stood in our new bus shell and stared blankly coming up with virtual solutions to problems. Lol. I plan it out in my head then execute. But watching me plan in my head looks very much like I'm in la la land


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

DoubleEagle

Quote from: Scott Bennett on May 26, 2016, 05:50:17 PM
Walters comment made me chuckle too. I can't tell you how many times I've just stood in our new bus shell and stared blankly coming up with virtual solutions to problems. Lol. I plan it out in my head then execute. But watching me plan in my head looks very much like I'm in la la land


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Scott, that is good to know, it looks like the blank stare affliction affects the young as well. The difference is that as you  get older, the stare will be longer, and you will drift off the original topic and take longer to recover. Not unlike the wandering off the thread topic at hand - go Eagle if you want the best ride and much admired looks (in my opinion), go Prevost if you have deep pockets, and go MCI if you are practical and want to get parts more easily. They all use the same engines and transmissions, basically; the rest is the shape and style of the wrapper.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Seangie

Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 26, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
Scott, that is good to know, it looks like the blank stare affliction affects the young as well. The difference is that as you  get older, the stare will be longer, and you will drift off the original topic and take longer to recover. Not unlike the wandering off the thread topic at hand - go Eagle if you want the best ride and much admired looks (in my opinion), go Prevost if you have deep pockets, and go MCI if you are practical and want to get parts more easily. They all use the same engines and transmissions, basically; the rest is the shape and style of the wrapper.
My stare usually starts at the front of the bus and ends up somewhere in the back...
'Cause you know we,
we live in a van (Eagle 10 Suburban)
Driving through the night
To that old promised land'