Water tanks

[Frank @ TX]

Hi Lin,
What ever you think is OK is your hide on the line.
If you think it is just fine to dump the gray water ... do it in front of a cop sometime.
Let me know when you're doing it , I'd like to see the out come.
Frank

[digesterman]

Frank what is wrong with watering plants with gray water, in some communities they recommend it highly due to the drought, in Texas I understand that some cities are now recycling their wastewater for drinking. Just saying
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[eagle19952]

i guess that means that washing your coach or car with soap and water is not very good either....

no dog washing...

there are lots of places that allow grey water hoses.
i don't think the guy is dumping 100 gallons of grey on the constables shoes.

fyi in part,

Texas Grey Water Information


In Texas, a permit isn't required to use a grey water system when the flow is less than 400 gallons per day.

Regulatory Overview:


Texas Health & Safety Code - Section 341.039. Graywater Standards


§ 341.039. GRAYWATER STANDARDS.


(a) The commission by rule shall adopt and implement minimum standards for the use and reuse of graywater for:


(1) irrigation and other agricultural purposes;
(2) domestic use, to the extent consistent with Subsection (c);
(3) commercial purposes; and
(4) industrial purposes.


(b) The standards adopted by the commission under Subsection (a) must assure that the use of graywater is not a nuisance and does not damage the quality of surface water and groundwater in this state.


(c) The commission may not require a permit for the domestic use of less than 400 gallons of graywater each day if the graywater:


(1) originates from a private residence;
(2) is used by the occupants of that residence for gardening, composting, or landscaping at the residence;
(3) is collected using a system that overflows into a sewage collection or on-site wastewater treatment and disposal system;
(4) is stored in tanks that:


(A) are clearly labeled as nonpotable water;
(B) restrict access, especially to children; and
(C) eliminate habitat for mosquitoes and other vectors;


(5) uses piping clearly identified as a nonpotable water conduit, including identification through the use of purple pipe, purple tape, or similar markings;
(6) is generated without the formation of ponds or pools of graywater;
(7) does not create runoff across the property lines or onto any paved surface; and
( is distributed by a surface or subsurface system that does not spray into the air.


(d) Each builder is encouraged to:


(1) install plumbing in new housing in a manner that provides the capacity to collect graywater from all allowable sources; and
(2) design and install a subsurface graywater system around the foundation of new housing in a way that minimizes foundation movement or cracking.


(e) In this section, "graywater" means wastewater from clothes-washing machines, showers, bathtubs, hand-washing lavatories, and sinks that are not used for disposal of hazardous or toxic ingredients. The term does not include wastewater:


(1) that has come in contact with toilet waste;
(2) from the washing of material, including diapers, soiled with human excreta; or
(3) from sinks used for food preparation or disposal.

[eagle19952]

further TX regulation...in parks regs...


(i) Metal detector. It is an offense for any person to operate or use a metal detector, except as authorized by permit.  

[Lin]

Areas like Palm Springs, Ca use gray water for landscaping.  Those beautiful golf courses are irrigated from a gray water system.  In our case, we are not talking about dumping a tank; it is usually just a couple of cups at a time from hand washing up to several gallons for a shower.  If those pine trees could talk, they'd say, "Thanks".  They are very polite, you know.

Again, I reiterate, there are situations when I consider it appropriate and situation when it is not. It only takes a little common sense and consideration for one's neighbors.

[Iceni John]

(e) In this section, "graywater" means wastewater from clothes-washing machines, showers, bathtubs, hand-washing lavatories, and sinks that are not used for disposal of hazardous or toxic ingredients. The term does not include wastewater:
(3) from sinks used for food preparation or disposal.

Interesting that kitchen sinks are a no-no.   I'm guessing that most bus conversions plumb everything (including the kitchen sink, so to speak) to the gray tank, with only the loo going to the poo tank.   Those conversions would not be allowed in TX to use gray water as specified.   I've heard that food waste can make buses' gray water stink worse than their black water.

It's also noteworthy that each day one could legally divert 400 gallons of gray water.   Wow!   How much gray water does a typical bus conversion produce in one day?

John

[Dave5Cs]

John I noticed that also. so if your Kitchen sink is part of your gray-water plumbing you would be in Violation.
Sorry Lin and Eagle didn't mean to start a war. LOL Thanks for the info.

I realize now what you were saying, before it went into the tank like Eagle was saying. I know when we lived in Colorado springs they water all the Golf courses up there as well as the college lawns with Gray-water or as all the little signs in the grass say,"Non Potable Water".

Well that was fun!...

Dave

[digesterman]

Guys that isn't "grey" water, it is the discharge from a wastewater treatment plant, what do you think keeps the golf courses green in most hot/dry states? Soon it will all be recycled into the drinking water treatment plants, already is being done in some areas.
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