the future of two stroke

[Dave5Cs]

Supply and demand, Produce, Milk , Cattle, Chicken, Vehicles, world class Wine from Napa, Sonoma, Lodi, Santa Maria Valley and L.A. That's because California actually produces something so trucks are moving all the time here and can afford it. Statistics show that more people move into this State than leave or move out every year so somebody likes it besides Me and Tom and Lin.

What was it that Arizona provides? Little Indian trinkets and People that complain about California!...

And to HB of CJ
Oregon has always hated California and again don't know why but don't really care either. Its just a smaller version of California!... As far as "Bubba and his boy friends" you might try Colorado they have way more of that there than California ever will because of proposition 3 they passed in 2000. Sorry we no longer lead the nation. New york, Denver then SF and L.A. Funny!...

As far as 2 strokes being shut down it may happen because other than Military vehicles and the guys that worked on them, will be the only ones that will have the expertise and won't care when they get out. The old 2 stroke mechanics are dieing off so there will be no support. Its hard to find the oil for them and soon the Chevron dealer in Rocklin told me they are going to stop making it in 2015 or 16 so will have use another , etc.

But life will go on and old buses will move on down the road even here in Cali weather you like it or not!.....

Dave5Cs

[Don4107]

How does CA treat buses and trucks coming across the southern boarder?

[wg4t50]

From an easterner view, it appears Calif indeed is very attractive to the mexicans to move on in and enjoy all the beauty of the welfare system, where everything is free, them dumb taxpayers pay for it.  Looks like the border is a one way gate.  
Just glad I am over 72 and hope to expire before Virginia changes from English to Spanish.
Wonder if there is much truth to the expression about Calif folks, "Them that are not fruits are nuts"?  

[Dave5Cs]

wg4t50
Do you you feel better now whatever your Name is? LOL you guys are funny. I guess being from the east you'd know all about it. At least I put where I am from. I like Tom C. love it here and the less people we have here the better. Hey Tom it works every time, LOL

Dave5Cs

[dukegrad98]

Whew, relax, Dave.  You're very happy in California.  The rest of us are happy with you there, too.   

Cheers, John

[Iceni John]

As far as 2 strokes being shut down it may happen because other than Military vehicles and the guys that worked on them, will be the only ones that will have the expertise and won't care when they get out. The old 2 stroke mechanics are dieing off so there will be no support. Its hard to find the oil for them and soon the Chevron dealer in Rocklin told me they are going to stop making it in 2015 or 16 so will have use another , etc.

But life will go on and old buses will move on down the road even here in Cali weather you like it or not!.....

Dave5Cs

There's still some older 2-stroke buses in Mexico, so presumably there are also mechanics there to work on them.   These days the older buses are generally for Second Class services, especially in rural areas  - I saw a pristine Dina Olympico near Toluca with a healthy-sounding 6V92, there were plenty of newer 2-stroke Dinas leaving Mexico City on stopping services towards the south, and I saw a 2-stroke Eagle leaving Tijuana's Central Camionera one night!   I even saw, or rather heard, a few trucks with what sounded like 8V92s.   However, emissions controls are beginning in Mexico, so maybe the venerable 2-strokes there will also run out of time.   Too bad.

John

[lostagain]

I don't see the end of 2 strokes for us RVers as imminent. I will continue to enjoy mine. And I will keep spending money on it when it needs it. I might even drive it through CA again for the sights, and visiting some of you bus nuts.

JC

[luvrbus]

In Arizona Dave we do produce a lot of x Californians even Apple has moved here   people and businesses are moving in not out 

[TomC]

The key to not being written up in California is to have the bus to not produce black smoke. You can do lots with no visible smoke. I had Don Fairchild tune my engine to be most efficient at 1800rpm. That's where I pull long grades and have no visible smoke-whether it be in 1st or 2nd (on a V730). Good Luck, TomC

[Seangie]

Maybe the US government will outlaw 2 strokes and offer a 30k kickback to us RVers for upgrading your 2 stroke engine to a newer 2010 model. 

Fulltiming somewhere in the USA
1984 Eagle 10S
www.herdofturtles.org

[lvmci]

Sean, cash for clunkers, bucks for busses? Money for memories? I have some great memories in the italian greyhound, mine must be worth a million! Lvmci...

[Van]

Cash for clunkers" is that Calif? See what you started Tom V lol 
I'm sorry Cali, couldn't pass that one up lol I love my two stroke, and what little of Calif I pass through on the way to Clifford's place