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trailer led problem

Started by Ace, November 04, 2011, 01:02:06 PM

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Oonrahnjay

Quote from: Ace on November 06, 2011, 02:19:13 AMYes 

     OK - are you still having trouble getting your amber turn signals to light?
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Ace

Not to sound rude but aren't you guys reading these post?

I have stated that my lights on my bus and trailer are working perfectly. I had to resort to using the double reds as they were designed and not use one amber. It simply won't work. Using an independent amber would work if I had the triple unit, two reds and one amber but I only have the double with two reds.
In the situation as it is now, I have to use the convertor since my bus has independent amber turn signals where as my trailer does not. Even though they are leds, they are still considered a combined light because like Sean stated there is a low and a high glow. The light glows on low for when it is on as a running/tail light and it glows bright when it is used as a turn or brake light.
Ace Rossi
Lakeland, Fl. 33810
Prevost H3-40

gumpy

We were wondering the same thing.... are you reading the responses?

If you want your yellow light to work as a turn signal and not as a brake/turn signal then you should remove the converter you have wired into the system. Wire
the trailer directly from the bus junction panel (the wire you have running to the converter from the bus side).

Your bus is 12v?  Correct?  

You don't need that converter unless you want the brake light to flash when you turn on the turn signal.

Remove the converter completely. You don't need it.
Run the bus brake line from the bus junction panel to the brake side of the red light.
Run the bus tail line from the bus junction panel to the tail side of the red light.
Run the bus turn signals from the bus junction panel to each yellow light, respectively.
Run a good ground through the connector and attach to the trailer frame (don't rely on the ball to ground it).

If you wire it this way, the red lights will function with tail and brake lights only, and the amber will function with turn signals only. The red lights won't blink,
and the amber lights won't be on constant (either tail or brake).

If your lights don't work when wired this way, then they are defective!

If you want the red lights and amber lights to both blink when you turn on turn signals, then you need to keep the converter, and run two separate wires from
the bus panel turn signals to the amber lights.


Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: Ace on November 06, 2011, 05:03:00 AMNot to sound rude but aren't you guys reading these post?

  I apologize if it came off that way, Ace, but there were a couple of posts that described different descriptions of various lighting layouts that you'd tried.  Also, I was confused if you wanted separate amber lights to work for turn signals

Quote from: Ace on November 06, 2011, 05:03:00 AMI have stated that my lights on my bus and trailer are working perfectly. I had to resort to using the double reds as they were designed and not use one amber. It simply won't work. Using an independent amber would work if I had the triple unit, two reds and one amber but I only have the double with two reds.
In the situation as it is now, I have to use the convertor since my bus has independent amber turn signals where as my trailer does not. Even though they are leds, they are still considered a combined light because like Sean stated there is a low and a high glow. The light glows on low for when it is on as a running/tail light and it glows bright when it is used as a turn or brake light.  

   Yes, you have a "four wire" trailer wiring system, which is the "American standard".  There is no way that you can get amber turns to work with that system (unless you run two additional wires, one to each amber lamp circuit, tied in to the wiring for your stock lamps on the bus - not on the trailer side of the converter).  The "four wire" system sends power to the "low intensity" side of the red lamps through Wire 1 for the tail lights (it will also supply any marker or side lights you have), it will send power through Wire 2 for one turn signal (high intensity, flashing), it will send power through Wire 3 for the other turn signal, and it will send power through both Wire 2 and Wire 3 for brake lights (high intensity, not flashing - on as long as your foot is on the brake).

   If you want amber turn signals and add a separate amber lamp, you can make them work with the extra circuits wiring I was discussing earlier, but the red lamp on that side will flash red at the same time that the amber turn flashes.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Ace

Ok one more time. Let me clarify. I agree with what both gumpy and jay say but without having to re-wire the whole trailer, I opted to use the two double red units, one on each side and ALL WORKS PERFECTLY!

Lets move on....
Ace Rossi
Lakeland, Fl. 33810
Prevost H3-40

gumpy

Ok. Glad it works.


Moving on...
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"