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ATF as Fuel Additive

Started by Jriddle, September 02, 2011, 01:37:11 PM

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luvrbus

Yea Dallas but 55 gals in 2500 gals is a far cry from the 50/50 blend some are telling you it is ok, how Ford gets into the picture with a high pressure Stanadyne injection pump compared to a 2 stroke I am working on that one lol.
Remember the old 6-71's in the oil patch that had the water injection to remove carbon the compression would start going up and they would start to knock and blowing oil shoot the water to those they would blow that crap all over you then go back to normal for another 3 or 4 months.
 

good luck
Life is short drink the good wine first

Just Dallas

Yup, I agree completely. If you look at 75 gallons, (what we normally used for a change) ÷ 2500 = about .03% 
The guys that are adding a quart now and then in their 150 gallon fuel tank are getting a dilution of .25 (a quarter of a gallon) ÷ 150 = .00166666666666%
My point is that they'll probably get more dirt and water scouring their injectors than they will oil.

I'm a great believer in a squirt of water into the intake to clean out the cylinders.

Good luck with the Ford ........ As Sgt. Shultz said, "I know Nuthink, I see Nuthink" besides, I had enough fun dealing with the JD 4020 injection that the owner replaced all the fuel lines with vinyl water line or something like it so he could see when he had air in the lines.



Quote from: luvrbus on September 03, 2011, 09:50:41 AM
Yea Dallas but 55 gals in 2500 gals is a far cry from the 50/50 blend some are telling you it is ok, how Ford gets into the picture with a high pressure Stanadyne injection pump compared to a 2 stroke I am working on that one lol

good luck
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TedsBUSted

Quote from: Just Dallas on September 03, 2011, 09:32:11 AM
. . .At one time I serviced a pair of 2 valve 6-71's running pumps with the outside fuel rails at a sugar beet factory. These engines had been running constantly since the 1950's. Even during oil changes they continued to run.

. . .There's no real telling how many hours those engines ran 24/7/365 from 195? until 1990 when we did the major work.  

But I'll bet that we could get close to the number with a calculator.  ;D

That's interesting. In about 1990 I saw an engine that was just removed from service, supposedly it had been running practically 24/7 since 1960, or so. The engine was still in good condition.  It was a big Waukesha six turning at something like 800 rpm and fueled by natural gas.

Sorry about the interruption, I have already jammed up one perfectly good thread this weekend.
Let the ATF burning resume.

Ted
Bus polygamist. Always room for another, especially '04 or '06 are welcome. NE from Chicago, across the pond.

bevans6

Too much ash and carbon buildup, that engine expired!   ;D
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

luvrbus

We had 5500 HP Cooper Bessemer engines 16V 250 rpm, natural gas engines at Tenneco they were never shut down they were equipped with a Lomar oil recovery system to keep the oil clean never saw one shut down even for a oil change they used a ash less oil 

good luck 
Life is short drink the good wine first

JohnEd

Quote from: Just Dallas on September 03, 2011, 10:22:00 AM

My point is that they'll probably get more dirt and water scouring their injectors than they will oil.


Not to put too fine a point on it, your right again. ::) 

Boy howdy have I taken some flack over the years about putting water into a running engine. Not a squirt now mind you....I had the hose out for the events.  Maybe a hundred of them total in my life. I guess it works, can't say that I noticed much performance change.  When I took the heads off to "look" for myself that water had everything blasted down to light brown varnish.  In plug changes prior to the agua event I had crusty ash and stuff in there all over everything.  I am not advocating anything so anyone that wants can pile on Dallas. ;D 

I think modern chemistry has given us better products to do the de-carbon job but water works...evidently.

Thanks Dallas,


John
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dougyes

Once had a mechanic dump some ATF in a carb of a Dodge 318 to clean it out while running. Worked ok.

Jriddle

Thanks all

I have been out camping the last few days in the bus but have enjoyed to read all the responses to my question. I usually don't believe in snake oil but my 88 ford pickup would drop a liter when pulling a hill under load. This would happen quit often an the lifter would pump back up on the other side of the hill if I took it easy. I put some kind of snake oil additive in and have not had any trouble since. The engine at the time had well over two hundred thousand miles and is still going.

Thanks
John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

bevans6

This just brought back a memory...  Way back in the day when first started racing there was a series for stock Honda Civic's.  It was a Pro series, had sponsorship, prize money, and people took it pretty seriously.  So one guy is revving up his engine to the red line and pouring in the ATF and making a total pain of himself with all the smoke.  People go over to ask him to stop, he says he needs to clean out the engine, he has a miss.  Pouring in the AFT, revving the snot out of it, all of a sudden a bang and a rod comes out the side...  He had hydraulic'd a cylinder!   ;D, we all cheered!

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

artvonne