A treat for all the eagle lovers on the board
http://richmond.craigslist.org/rvs/863077003.html
Frank
Looks like it was a ex Trailways PD-4104.
When all the other buses are in the scrap yard this old PD-4104 will pick up the driver/owners and bring them back home! :D
It's hard to believe that some of the older PD4104's are now 55 years old.
These old PD-4104's have set the standard for the rest of the bus industry to follow.
Long live the old PD4104's ;D
jlv
C'mon Ken, don't believe everything you read....including this post! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Bob
I may be a little bias because I own a 4104 but the 4104 seems to be the one bus that everyone admires.
There are great things to be said about ALL buses, but you mention a 4104 to anyone that really knows buses and you can see their face light up.
Just like when you talk about classic cars there are certain cars that everyone will agree that are milestones in history.
(it brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it) ;D
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Come on now guys, we've been over this before. It is the Mighty Scenicruiser, yes, the PD4501 that is the best of the best & set the most milestones that buses are still following to this day.
Things like standard powersteering, air conditioning, & washroom. Then there is the luggage capacity (weight & volume), & maneuverability.
Was any other bus able to last almost 20 years in fleet service for Greyhound?
The 4104 does make a highly qualified 2nd place tho . . . .
Sorry for you Bob, mci didn't even make the top 5.
LOL LMAO
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I can't help but respond to his wonderful thread!
I aint gonna touch this with a ten foot pole!
You guys made me smile and put a tear in my eye at the same time. ::)
Paul
Even I got to drive a 4104 in revenue service way way back in 1970. Ancient history. And....I bet it was one of the first retro-fitted 671T applications also.
Yosemite Park and Curry Company. Went from the Valley Floor up over Tioga Pass (about 10,000 ft) then down the grade, then North to end up in Reno Nevada.
Turbo charger and a Jake Brake. Would come down that 7 percent grade to Lee Vining in 2nd gear at 20 mph and you hardly ever had to touch the service brakes.
Gimmie 4104's were very cool. The shop mechanic gleefully told me what was done to that 671T to make it run soosss well at altitude. Long ago and far away. :) :) :)
Quote from: kyle4501 on October 10, 2008, 10:19:23 AM
Was any other bus able to last almost 20 years in fleet service for Greyhound?
The 4104 does make a highly qualified 2nd place tho . . . .
Sorry for you Bob, mci didn't even make the top 5.
LOL LMAO
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ummm, I dunno about with the hound, but my 1952 PD4103 was still in service for Big red in 1967, sold at surplus in 1968.
I have a whole stack of maintenance records from TW for it along with some of the Licensing and Bingo cards from it's former life.
Quote from: kyle4501
Was any other bus able to last almost 20 years in fleet service for Greyhound?
MC9! OVER 20 yrs! We've been through it before! And even though the "9" was and still is the workhorse and back bone of the line haul service operator for over 20 yrs, SETRAs & EAGLEs are still the best buses ever built!
;D BK ;D
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on October 10, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: kyle4501
Was any other bus able to last almost 20 years in fleet service for Greyhound?
MC9! OVER 20 yrs! We've been through it before! And even though the "9" was and still is the workhorse and back bone of the line haul service operator for over 20 yrs, SETRAs & EAGLEs are still the best buses ever built!
;D BK ;D
BK, you're just jealous ;D
Yep, the 9 was designed to replace the 4501, & was the first bus designed for a 20 year life. But it took 9000+ mc9's to equal 1001 PD4501's. ;D
The 9 is a great coach, if you like the look of a shoe box :o
Those others you mentioned are great if your yard needs a little iron ::) or you like the rubbery ride over air . . . :o ::)
But, I am a little biased in my opinion . . . . 8)