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Title: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Michael_e on July 20, 2008, 09:55:39 AM
I was over at the Scenicrusier21 site,  http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Scenicruiser21/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&sec=group&slk=1

and was looking at this Scenicrusier hatchback. Very, Very interesting. Does anyone have any other pictures of this unique bus? I would like to see how the hatchback was built, or reinforced. How did the ramps come out, manpower? I don't know if it was in a dream or what, but wasn't this bus for sale a bunch of years ago and it had some other pictures of it then? Did anyone save a copy of them?

Also, in a sorta similar line of thought, has anyone ever thought of building a "Scenicrusier Trailer?" I mean a trailer with the Scenicrusier lines & porportions, just reduced to a 26 - 30 foot length. I know this would make a really long bus/trailer going down the road, on the order of 70-75 feet, but UPS & FedEx pull tripples all the time on I-70 and they gotta be 80-90 feet.

Thanks,

Mike
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on July 20, 2008, 10:39:06 AM
Hi Mike,

Never heard of Gordon but, maybe this is the bus that you are speaking of?

It has bee seen on this site in the past and I would love to see it up close.

Nick-
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Dallas on July 20, 2008, 10:47:20 AM
Quote from: Nick Badame Refrig. Co. on July 20, 2008, 10:39:06 AM
Hi Mike,

Never heard of Gordon but, maybe this is the bus that you are speaking of?

It has bee seen on this site in the past and I would love to see it up close.

Nick-


Nick, That bus is a Sultana from Mexico.

Here are a bunch more photo's of it when it was in Chattanooga.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/549608275rEehcF
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: RTS/Daytona on July 20, 2008, 11:07:52 AM
here's thier bus and picture of it's construction   -  see page 10
http://www.greatnorthwoodsjournal.net/pdfs/Issues/Jan2006/GNJ_01_07_06_Pgs%5B1%5D._9_12.pdf

Here's the group
http://www.twelvetribes.com/

general info ??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twelve_Tribes_(New_religious_movement)

or this

cult ??
http://www.twelvetribes-ex.com/

not a cult
http://www.goodmanson.com/2005-11/02/is-the-twelve-tribes-a-cult/

you drawn your own conclusions about this group ??
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf Hatchback Scenicruiser
Post by: luvrbus on July 20, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
Any of you guys have a photo of the Eagle at MAKs rally in 2000 I believe it was at Laughlin but he drove a small Suzuki Samurai into the back upper level  there is a photo in one of Mikes magazine on the back page it was unique
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: tekebird on July 20, 2008, 11:36:28 AM
Dallas that photo is a hybrid of a Scenicruiser and an Aerocoach and a bunch of custom fabrication

the bus the original posted noted is a scenicruiser which the back clip above the engine opens upward.

last I saw it was a couple decades ago...at the Carlisle car show and it was hauling a corvette and the owner was selling car covers


Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: kyle4501 on July 20, 2008, 01:08:41 PM
This is the HatchBack Cruiser.  8)
No, It isn't for sale.  :(
Yes the owner plans on putting it back on the road.  ;D
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on July 20, 2008, 04:11:49 PM
Thanks Kyle,

Hummm, a 77' corvette fits back there. Neat!

Nick-
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Michael_e on July 20, 2008, 06:08:05 PM
Thanks Kyle for posting those pics. THAT'S the bus i was trying to describe. Does anyone have any closeup pics of the hatchback of it's construction?

And that second question - has anyone ever thought of building a "Scenicrusier Trailer?" I mean a trailer with the Scenicrusier lines & porportions, just reduced to a 26 - 30 foot length. I know this would make a really long bus/trailer going down the road, on the order of 70-75 feet, but UPS & FedEx pull tripples all the time on I-70 and they gotta be 80-90 feet.

Thanks

Mike
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: TomC on July 20, 2008, 06:16:19 PM
Mike- those states that allow triples also have special length laws.  Most states keep the maximum length of RV's to 65 ft overall.  So with a 40ft bus you could pull a 20 ft trailer-which would be enough to house the corvette. Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Jeremy on July 21, 2008, 09:26:24 AM
That 'hatchback' idea is very common here - traditionally race car teams would add a ramp and a door to the back of an old coach and use it to transport their vehicles & people, just like the Bedford in the 'Italian Job' movie for example. It was a very common thing to do in the 70's and 80's, but you don't see them nearly as much nowadays for some reason - it so happens though I was at a steam rally just a couple of weeks ago and a guy there was carrying his vintage steam vehicle inside a coach

Usually you would start by choosing a bus with a mid-mounted engine for obvious reasons - having to get the car to the height required to go inside a Scenicruiser certainly makes things a lot more tricky


Jeremy
Title: Re: Gordon Pfalzgraf's Hatchback Scenicrusier
Post by: Green-Hornet on July 21, 2008, 09:58:22 AM
I wanna see the driver get out of that car! ;D