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Title: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: kysteve on June 26, 2008, 12:50:11 PM
Hey Guys,

       Has anyone done a swingout radiator Assembly and all so does anyone know the pros and cons of doing so.  I am interested in hearing how you have seen them done or done yours and what if anything you would have done differently.  I have all so thought about having it slide straight out like a drawer but haven't thought to much about how I would keep the fluids in yet.  I have Dave's Bible, and read over this chapter a couple of times but, I thought I would get some opinion's before studying anymore on the subject.  As allways pictures are a plus.   ;)

      Thanks ....... Kentucky Steve........
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: makemineatwostroke on June 26, 2008, 01:22:13 PM
Kysteve go to a Cat or John Deere dealer they use swing out radiators on some of their heavy equipment fwiw
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: tekebird on June 26, 2008, 01:25:36 PM
go look at an MCI Condensor. all it is is a radiator
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: kysteve on June 26, 2008, 01:44:02 PM
Thats a good ideal two stoke, I have a friend allso, that has about a hundred pieces of heavy equipment and i will go out there and nose around on some of them for some ideals.

Doug, does that MCI condensor swing out??

.......Thanks, ....... Kentucky Steve.........
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: tekebird on June 26, 2008, 01:55:21 PM
yep.  on the MC-8 on at least.

problem is you will have to fit some sort of Hydraulic hose for your hoses so they can twist
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Barn Owl on June 26, 2008, 02:26:23 PM
GM radiators and condensers swing out.
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: makemineatwostroke on June 26, 2008, 02:31:20 PM
Kysteve you should look at the 12V fans that people say don't work on some of the heavy equipment also if you do not want a belt driven fan
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Chaz on June 26, 2008, 03:04:03 PM
GM radiators swing out?????????????
  Really. Man, I JUST pulled the plug on my radiator to drain it and have it cleaned out. I haven't really looked at how it's mounted, but I'm going to keep that in mind. Could make the "pull" a little easier knowing this.
I need to check my other thread on this to see if anyone else mentioned it.  :) :)
  Perfect timing! Thanx guys!

     Chaz
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Catskinner! on June 26, 2008, 04:36:24 PM
Steve

     The 85 Model 10 Eagle that I have has a factory swing out

on the condenser, that is where I am going to mount my air to air

condenser for the turbo.

Catskinner!
Sonnie & Patti Gray
72 0/5 Eagle 3406 Cat
Pottsboro, Texas
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Barn Owl on June 26, 2008, 05:39:58 PM
QuoteGM radiators swing out?
  Really. Man, I JUST pulled the plug on my radiator to drain it and have it cleaned out. I haven't really looked at how it's mounted, but I'm going to keep that in mind. Could make the "pull" a little easier knowing this.
I need to check my other thread on this to see if anyone else mentioned it.   
  Perfect timing! Thanx guys!

Ok, I assumed all GM rads swing because all four of the 4106 buses within walking distance of me will. I don't think GM changed the design too much from the 4106 but I am sure I will find out if I am wrong. If I prop open the expanded metal screen there is a large latch located at the bottom right of the radiator. just lift it and swing the radiator out. HTH.
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: H3Jim on June 26, 2008, 06:43:24 PM
I remote mounted my radiator for the generator.  I mounted it on the condensor door for the air conditioning.  That door swings out.  The mecheanics of holding it on were straight forward, simple aluminum bracket to hold the weight.  The door is plenty beefy enough.  For the hoses, I started using regular radiator / cooling system hose, but that didn't work since the hose crimped.  The action of hte door mostly causes the hoses to fold into a tighter bend rather than twist when the door closes. 

So down to the store in town that sells cutoffs for all different kinds of commercial hose.  I ended up with some heavy duty stuff with wire in it.  Been working fine for several years.

I'll look for some pictures.
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: H3Jim on June 26, 2008, 06:51:58 PM
Here it is if it will post.
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Chaz on June 26, 2008, 07:11:28 PM
QuoteOk, I assumed all GM rads swing because all four of the 4106 buses within walking distance of me will. I don't think GM changed the design too much from the 4106 but I am sure I will find out if I am wrong. If I prop open the expanded metal screen there is a large latch located at the bottom right of the radiator. just lift it and swing the radiator out. HTH.

Yup, your right Barny. My 4108 does too. It doesn't swing out very far, but it does swing out. It has rubber bushings in the pivots and two bolts on a bracket on the other side. H-e-a-v-y little bugger too!!!! I would have never thought they were that heavy!

Steve, is there a reason you want yours to do this? I guess it helps a bit, but not sure if it would be worth it. But if you still want to do it, maybe an old GMC would work as a donor.

Just a thought,
    Chaz
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: kysteve on June 26, 2008, 07:22:24 PM
Thanks for all the replies guys.

Especially to Jim for digging out the pic, as they allways help a bunch. Pics are worth a thousand words.

Sonny, I phoned you a while back and left you a message.  Don't know if you got it.  I was trying to figure out the height of the boggie wheel well hoop for the steel.  I did after studying some pics remedy the problem.   There is a model 10 at a church on the other end of our street and I will stop and see if the condenser swings out like yours. Thanks again Sonny
 
Guys,  I am thinking of finding a piece of hardware to attach in the middle of the hoses like a swivel.  What say you guys here.  I am talking for the main radiator too.  I suppose they make them that big??


Thanks ........Kentucky Steve........
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: kysteve on June 26, 2008, 07:27:33 PM
Chaz,

    I would just like to be able to get in there and do preventative maintenance from time to time.  In relation to fan sucking in, I think it is better to wash them out from the back side.  I think it would help to be able to get into that area of the engine compartment too. 

Thanks .......Kentucky Steve..........
Title: Re: Radiator swing out assembly
Post by: Barn Owl on June 26, 2008, 09:19:48 PM
QuoteIt doesn't swing out very far

It can depend on how your hoses are set up. My father has one that will open but the hoses are long. I have to drain and remove the hoses on mine.