The California Air Resources Board has unveiled a revised draft regulation that would require the estimated 420,000 privately owned diesel trucks and buses to retrofit beginning in 2012.
The proposed regulation ensures that beginning in 2012, all trucks must be 2010 models or newer. It also calls for truckers to retrofit pre-2007 model year trucks with soot filters. The draft is currently being reviewed and will be voted on this October.
"If passed by the Board later this year, this regulation will save thousands of lives and help the hundreds of thousands more who suffer from asthma and other respiratory ailments," said CARB Chairman Mary Nichols. "While we are sensitive to the economic impacts this measure poses to truckers, the public health benefits are far too great not to move forward."
CARB estimates that diesel truck emissions would cause 11,000 premature deaths between 2010 and 2020, while the total economic benefit of eliminating those deaths is estimated to be between $70 billion and $89 billion.
The board announced that Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's budget has allocated an additional $48 million to CARB to help low-income truckers comply with diesel emissions regulations. According to CARB, AB118 and the previously allocated Proposition 1B will help pay for engine retrofits and replacements that will be required in 2010.
"This money will help truckers in the state, many of whom are struggling financially, to retrofit and replace engines to help all of us breathe easier," said Nichols. "We appreciate the Governor's and Legislature's support on this crucial public health issue."
CARB said it will work with the California Treasurers Office to use the funds for low interest loans to help truckers install the soot filtration devices and replace older engines, as well as add devices such as side skirts and wider tires that reduce aerodynamic drag.
"Sierra Club California supports the administration's proposal to use $50 million in available air-quality funds for loans to help low-income truckers achieve early compliance with upcoming requirements to reduce toxic diesel emissions," said Bill Magavern, director of Sierra Club California. "This proposal provides a creative solution that will benefit Californians' health and our economy."
According to CARB, the proposed regulation is the latest in a series of regulations to reduce health risks--covering cargo handling equipment, transport refrigeration units, truck idling, off-road construction equipment, harbor craft, ship auxiliary engines, port drayage trucks and ships-at-berth.
good thing we have motorhomes huh?
Private buses means buses not owned by the state/municipality etc.
Quote from: tekebird on June 11, 2008, 02:33:54 PM
good thing we have motorhomes huh?
Private buses means buses not owned by the state/municipality etc.
And do I hear a third!!!!!!
Motion passes.....
Nothing personal here Russ, or to any of the other CA residents who happen to be BusNuts.....but
Is there any wonder as to why the rest of the country raises a jaundiced eye in California's direction when their Legislators or Governor come up with these "off the wall" cures for something that pure science and common sense would solve the problem?
But then, the world must continue to go 'round and 'round without my help. :D
Bob
Doug;
In this case it means privately owned regardless, in a conversation I had with Mary Nichols, Leo Kay, Susan Reed and DR. Shear at the A.R.B it means every one with a diesel will meet 2007 rules by 2010 and then 2010 rules by 2012. So pucker up everybody. They also said they are working on a plan to stop every vehicle before it enters the state and if it does not meet the standard it will not be permitted in the state.
In another release they are meeting to pass the strictest regulation on emissions in ocean going vessels.
all ships with the 24 nautical miles of the coast of cal will use low sulfur fuel in there boilers
Michael Scheible stated we are requiring very large reductions that will greatly lessen air pollution from ships
and save 2000 premature deaths each year.
Don
Quoteit means every one with a diesel will meet 2007 rules by 2010 and then 2010 rules by 2012. So pucker up everybody. They also said they are working on a plan to stop every vehicle before it enters the state and if it does not meet the standard it will not be permitted in the state.
NOOOO KIDDIN!?!? Man, that'll suck. I like California too! I use to live in Huntington Beach.
Bummer,
Chaz
Fortunately, I've already been to California, beautiful place, glad I saw it, no reason to go back (unless they are going to help me out with a new engine)
I just read the first two pages of the latest Draft proposal.
Section c is exemptions which include motorhomes in non commercial use.
I suspect private boats will also be exempt , might have even said that....there were quite a few exemptions
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onrdiesel/documents/MAY_08_Draft_Regulation_with_Errata.pdf
(c) Exemptions
This regulation does not apply to:
(1) Vehicles subject to the solid waste collection vehicle rule commencing with title 13,
CCR, section 2021;
(2) On-road diesel-fueled heavy-duty vehicles over 14,000 pounds owned or operated
by a municipality, that comply with the Best Available Control Technology (BACT)
requirements of title 13, section 2022.1(a)(1);
(3) Vehicles subject to the fleet rule for transit agencies commencing with title 13,
CCR, section 2023;
(4) Heavy-duty drayage trucks complying with the requirements and compliance
deadlines of title 13, CCR, section 2027(d), until December 31, 2017;
(5) Vehicles subject to the rule for mobile cargo handling equipment at ports and
intermodal railyards commencing with title 13, CCR, section 2479
(6) Military tactical support vehicles, as described in title 13, CCR, section 1905;
(7) Authorized emergency vehicles as described in California Vehicle Code (Veh.
Code), section 165;
(8) Off-road vehicles subject to title 13, CCR, sections 2401, 2421, 2411, 2432, and
2449;
(9) Dedicated snow-removal vehicles as defined in section 2025(d)(10)
(10) Two-engine cranes as defined in title 13, CCR, section 2449(c)(56).
(11) Historic vehicles as defined in section 2025(d)(27); and
(12) Motor homes for non-commercial private use.
that draft was from a month ago and will go under some big changes before it gets to the lawmakers and Arnie.Your going to be lucky if there is 1 exemption when the bill passes (garbage trucks maybe)
CARB is not the end all of legislation,
They passed some stupid @$# law/regulation requiring out of state trucks to have Low Nox flashes put on thier computers.
CA Supreme court overturned the regulation
When I was working in CA they banned two stroke motorcycles, 3 years later you could still buy one and get a OHV sticker for it.
Alot of these CArb regulation will never in the near future get instituted, unless of course the purpose is to have CA susceed from the Union,
What will end up happening is Ocean going shipments will go to Oregon, Washington, Canada etc....and bypass CA.
Tourism will suffer, etc etc.
Doug, it's so bad here even Needles Ca wants out of the state (thats a true statement)
is it just me or does it appear from the exemption list that anything owned by the state or local governments is exempt. seems if they are so concerned with saving the lives of their voting public they would start by cleaning up their own equipment. wait, that would involve logic and action on their part rather than putting it off on the public. not the political way I guess.
steve
Aren't some school districts in CA still using Crown school buses from the 70s and 80s? No possible way those meet these pollution regs unless the engines have been replaced or DPFs retrofitted.
Quote from: compedgemarine on June 11, 2008, 07:48:55 PM
is it just me or does it appear from the exemption list that anything owned by the state or local governments is exempt. seems if they are so concerned with saving the lives of their voting public they would start by cleaning up their own equipment. wait, that would involve logic and action on their part rather than putting it off on the public. not the political way I guess.
steve
Yeah, I noticed that too.
Sounds like a bunch of NIMBY types to me.....
You do it, but not us....
Cliff
We lived in the LA area for a few years. I noticed that in 2005 the push for the regulations for commercial use was beginning. First they started with off road equipment such as front end loaders etc. The next stage was supposed to be commercial trucks. I cannot imagine that replacing most of their Crown School Buses will happen anytime soon, and they have a bunch of them.
I'm just glad we don't live there anymore, too many people and too much smog. Although we have children and grands there, it's only for a visit and then we're gone. Otherwise I see no reason to go back.
A lot of the regs get changed for one reason or another, and I suspect that more will change. They are trying to eliminate all smoking diesels, I don't really blame them. Sometimes you cannot even see the mountains because of the smog. When the Santa Ana's blow it is beautiful and clear.
Don Fairchild will be a good go to guy as time goes on as he deals with our beloved beast, the screaming DD!
Paul
Mexico wants CA back real bad, I say give it to 'em.
So far- motorhomes and RV's are still exempt. But-that might change. Even the current smogged up engines with particulate traps are still 50% more fuel efficient than the 2 strokers. When it comes to the breaking point, which for many will be many years, retrofit the entire engine and transmission. On my truck conversion, I have a Caterpillar 3406B 400hp with air to water aftercooler. When it comes time, I'll just have a Cummins ISL or ISM (Caterpillar is getting out the truck engine industry [providing engines to other OEM's] by 2010-at which time they will be making their engines for their own on road trucks and for International only-read that today) installed with current traps, even though it will probably cost around $35-50,000 to do. But, what could you buy for $50,000 that's built that well? Nothing. Good Luck, TomC
Boy, am I glad I moved out of Commiefornia way back in 1987. Political refugee. Now live in SW OR and it is darn near perfect. :) :) :)
Quote from: HB of CJ on June 13, 2008, 01:31:43 PM
Boy, am I glad I moved out of Commiefornia way back in 1987. Political refugee. Now live in SW OR and it is darn near perfect. :) :) :)
The problem with Oregon, (My Birth State), is that all the people from California that didn't like the laws and bunny huggers there have moved north and Settled in Oregon.. basically Californicating Orygun.
I moved out of state in the 70's because of silly laws and conditions of owning property in certain areas.
As an example... One of my neighbors in the Bend/Sisters area used horses for logging, his saw mill was run by water wheel, he lived
Off Grid, and he used a "sanolet" (SP?) electric toilet for his household waste. Everything that went into his house as food stuffs came back out as an alternate use; fertilizer, animal fodder, direct animal food, etc.
The state cars pulled in one day with an injunction to stop him and make him show cause that his processes were not harmful to the natural state of the land.
It ended up going to the Oregon Supreme Court and he was fined some ungodly amount and forced to have his household waste hauled to a dump site.
Oh, and they also found that since his horses weren't "natural" to the area he needed to diaper them when using them in his own forested acreage for logging.
What a bunch of BS.
My pair o' pennies on this one.
Dallas
I really expect that motorhomes will remain exempt. The RV industry is a pretty active lobby, and they will keep on top of things like this. When they say motorhomes, they are not even thinking of the evil DD. We will probably just be lucky enough to ride on the exemption wave. With regard to stopping non-complying vehicles at the border, I do not think any lawyer would say they could get away with it. If they try, they will loose in court like they have on other interstate commerce issues. On the positive side, since people rarely approach things is a rational, moderate way, it generally takes extremists on both sides of any issue to make small changes through compromise. Nader may be a nut, but cars are safer now. Air quality in Los Angeles is a lot better than it once was. I know there may be lots of things that have gotten worse, but that's part of the deal too. To say "we're only human" is not merely an excuse. It's a fact!