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There has been so much discussion on home built and professional built bus conversions I thought it would be fun to know the figures.

Don't be shy......Explain why.... ;)

Happy Trails,

Paul

Just installed in a couple of Duo-therm basement heat pumps today. Fit like a glove. ;D

I'm too picky, I don't always do it the right way, but at least it's my way. ;D
Devin

My rig does not fit in any of your categories...  :(

-Sean
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com

Just had to it, huh Paul.  :D :D :D LOL Good for you!!! This could be interesting. Good call.

I'm just a person who has to create. I love the unique and am always trying to find a better way to do something or a way to make it a little neater.
I get a great deal of personal satisfaction by doing it myself and I have most of the abilities and, above all, the "toys", I, I, I, mean "tools"!!
It also keeps me out of the bars! LOLOL  :D :D

   Chaz

We already have a right nice travel trailer.
We found the Scenicruiser that had been started toward the conversion.  I took it as a challenge to finish it!
I always liked the lines of them...and I rode on them growing up!
Jack

Built our own! This is my 3rd and probably the last one. 1st was a GM 4107 but sold it after I got it completely stripped for an 01 Eagle. Completed the Eagle from rear to front but the thought of parts availability and minor rust issues kind of forced me into my present Prevost along with a little persuasion from fellow bus nuts. This one we did 90% of ourselves with help from a few friends only because we couldn't afford the high end converters even though we looked really hard at the work they do. Almost committed a couple times but figured for what we were going to use it for, we could do a good enough job for far less!
Were very happy with what we accomplished!!

BS

Sean,

And what catagory would that be....Over the top...... ;)

Or .........There's nothing like it....

How about ........One of kind......

Paul

When it came time to retire the class C all the research I did left me cold on Class
A's until until I saw a sweet old Eagle on E-bay....a new world opened up.

After more research I tried buying a well done older Eagle....out bid
found out I had a champagne taste on home brew budget. Saw the current
bus I own on e-bay bid my usual hap hazard way and won. (no fancy stuff :) )
Total time of research was about 6 months.....still not enough research

So now I build my own. Not the "my way" thing just the only way I saw that I
could afford it.........Johny Cash Caddy one part at a time :)

Skip

The Canadian Government designates a professional conversion as one done by a company principally engaged in the conversion business.

That said - some of the poorest design, poorest workmanship, illegal installation was done by professional conversion companies. There are no rules, regulations or constraints on starting a conversion business. Under the rule mentioned above, if you register as an LLC and convert one bus then it is a professional conversion.

Quote from: Stan on April 26, 2008, 05:38:14 AM
The Canadian Government designates a professional conversion as one done by a company principally engaged in the conversion business.

That said - some of the poorest design, poorest workmanship, illegal installation was done by professional conversion companies. There are no rules, regulations or constraints on starting a conversion business. Under the rule mentioned above, if you register as an LLC and convert one bus then it is a professional conversion.

This one of my pet peeves......

The use of supposedly descriptive words like "Home Built" or "Professional" conjure up vastly different visions to most.

When just what Stan stated, has been seen by many, including myself.

If glitzy mirrors, ultra-fancy lighting, tri-level ceilings are your thing we are probably talking about the "Professional" I have seen.

Of course, being the designer, builder, bank roll of a "Custom Coach", I look a little deeper, past the veneer, so to speak, and I am not impressed at the quality I am seeing.

Anybody can throw a million dollars at a coach and make it look good.

What impresses me is all the folks out there who do there own for a fraction of that, and build a "Professional Custom Coach", to there tastes and there budget.

OK, I feel better now, back to being the labor on that coach........

Cliff

You missed one that some will fall into

Started by previous owner and finished by you

Just the way it worked for me however I voted self built

Melbo

We did our own, but I have nothing against someone that buys a brand new factory conversion, a used factory conversion, or someone else's home conversion. We all are in different situations, with different needs, capabilities, and finances. What ever works for you is the right way.  Jack

I voted "professional conversion" but we didn't buy ours because it was professionally converted.  We bought (rather than build) because our thing is using it.  Some people like building - we like using.  It was that simple for us.  I've already got several projects - didn't need another.  Occasionally we dream about building our own but I doubt it will happen.  I'll run out of life before I run out of projects without putting another one on the list.  Right now the list includes ongoing modifications/improvements to the bus, finishing a 26' deep water cruiser, extensive house renovations.  Once the current boat project is out the door then I have one more boat to build before I even think about non-boat projects.

It was hard to come up with every way and not have a page for just polling.

Just pick one that is closet to what you have or desire.

Sorry if I left any particular one out, I can't think of everything! ;)

Have a Happy Day,

Paul

how can I make more than one vote?

4 in the family at present, all professional conversions with 3 of them converted from new

Sorry Doug,

I can't change the poll now, I didn't think of more than one in a stable, dah!

Mabe one of our esteemed moderators can change it.  ;)

Paul

no big deal, I know the poll setup is not the most intuitive process the way it is...as evidenced by some of my prior polls.

Quote from: Dreamscape on April 26, 2008, 03:22:35 PM
Sorry Doug,

I can't change the poll now, I didn't think of more than one in a stable, dah!

Mabe one of our esteemed moderators can change it.  ;)

Paul

Changed it to 4 for you Paul

U DA MAN Dallas. ;D

THX!

Paul

so how do I now got back and add three more votes?

Edited

Brian, Plesae save your direct comments for PM's.

Nick-

Edited..

Doug, Not here. Save it for a PM.

Nick-

I thought this was a Flame Free Zone ANYWAY!

But there has been a fair ammount of flamming directed towards me as of late.......for doing nothing more than posting my opinions on buses and bus related things.

that is what this forum is for........giving the 1800 members a wide range of peoples experience and opinions.  otherwise it would just be a single sided answer board hosted by MAK with MAK as the allknowing bus conversion expert.

Geeezzzzz,

All I was asking for was a poll about which way you went on a coach.

We don't need this kind of reaction here, please.

Now, back to the poll. ;)

Have a great day everyone!

Paul

Quote from: tekebird on April 27, 2008, 07:02:02 AM
Edited

Yes, I made a comment about your poll.  My comment this time was related to all the negative comments you make in general, especially about Eagles.  Anybody who regularly follows the forum knows you don't like Eagles, but you seem to comment negatively any time the word Eagle comes up.

I'm not working on my Dina at the moment because it has been very cold and rainy this weekend.  I also have a trailer in my garage I am replacing a panel on because a construction crew hit it and put a hole in.

Where's the "moderator" here?....hopefully  this site won't become like the entertainment industry....

...one incursion at a time till what is said is what any poster wants to say without consideration for decorum and moral decency. to say nothing of taking opportunity to make this a personal garbage dump.

Taking the LORD'S name in "vain" is not an acceptable choice for public pronouncement, any more than other expletives are appropriate in such a situation.

Sorry comments and sorry attitudes hurt everyone,.....usually beginning with the initiator.

:( :( :( :'( :'( :'(

MHO, FWIW
RCB

Quote from: tekebird on April 27, 2008, 07:02:02 AM
Edited

The use of those words is an example of "Class", all LOW.......

Cliff

Im actually with Melbo, started by other, finished (almost) by us.
Jim

Now wait just a cotton pickin minute. Let me round up some my boys and we'll show you how REAL flame war is supposed to be!
Aww just kiddin!

BS

Quote from: Blacksheep on April 27, 2008, 10:51:33 AM
Now wait just a cotton pickin minute. Let me round up some my boys and we'll show you how REAL flame war is supposed to be!
Aww just kiddin!

BS

ACE,
Behave............. How much time is a cotton pickin minute anyway?

Nick-

Not sure exactly but really all I need is enough time to contact some fellow flamers and get r' done...
Heck maybe just say "BOO" to one guy and watch all heck break loose!  Roflmao :)

BS

Speaking of class acts . . . . .  ::)


There is a difference in discussing an issue VS. posting comments that need to be deleted.

Then there are those who delight in pushing certain 'hot buttons' that are sure to send the 'victim' into orbit.

Let's not forget those who stir the pot. (who? Me?)   :o



I suppose it could be argued that being a busnut & acting responsibly are mutually exclusive.  ;D




And for those who have never picked their own cotton, the time spent picking cotton seemed like the longest minutes there were!   :(

cotton picken minute = New York minute= 60 cotton picken, New York seconds.

There is a great beauty to metaphor.  "Warm as her lips" and "warm is piss" both equal 98.6 degrees.  Yet we would seem to have a preference.

As far as the buses go.  The first was started by the PO and completed by us.  The second was said to be a professional conversion, but was certainly altered since.  We have continued, and will continue, to make alterations.  Come to think of it, it was the same with my first motorhome, a Pace Arrow.  It seems that RV's in general lend themselves to being works-in-progress.

Quote from: kyle4501 on April 28, 2008, 12:38:30 PM
Speaking of class acts . . . . .  ::)


There is a difference in discussing an issue VS. posting comments that need to be deleted.

Then there are those who delight in pushing certain 'hot buttons' that are sure to send the 'victim' into orbit.

Let's not forget those who stir the pot. (who? Me?)   :o



I suppose it could be argued that being a busnut & acting responsibly are mutually exclusive.  ;D




And for those who have never picked their own cotton, the time spent picking cotton seemed like the longest minutes there were!   :(

And your point is?    ???

BS

Quote from: Blacksheep on April 28, 2008, 01:39:55 PM

And your point is?    ???

BS

My point is usually on top of my head!  :o


Discussing different points of view is good.
To stir the pot can be good too, if it helps further the discussion.

However, posting stuff that requires the moderators to intervene is irresponsible.
Posting stuff just to send someone into orbit, well, what's the point? to show others you're a bully?

We all have our moments, just some more than others.

Maybe I missed something! Didn't see where anyone was being a bully! And as far as the moderators getting involved? Don't they always?  ::)

By the way, I had the privilege of seeing first hand two of your stable mates! All I can say is, I'm glad I went the route I went!  ;D

BS

I wasn't sure how to vote, I looked and didn't see the early Goodwill designation or the full of sawdust box lol.

Quote from: Blacksheep on April 28, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
Maybe I missed something! Didn't see where anyone was being a bully! And as far as the moderators getting involved? Don't they always?  ::)

BS, you are not the sole subject of all my posts, although you do inspire some.  ;D

I'll bet I'm not the only one who knows who the "BOO" remark was for. :o

And of course the moderators got involved to clean things up. Sometimes, that is what it takes to keep things friendly.  8)
The biggest problem of deleting posts - others can't know what was deleted, & that leads to confusion later.  :-\

Quote from: Blacksheep on April 28, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
By the way, I had the privilege of seeing first hand two of your stable mates! All I can say is, I'm glad I went the route I went!  ;D
BS

And you're welcome for the privilege.  ;D 8)  I'm happy for you that you're glad with the route you chose.
Believe it or not, I'm not the only one who is happy with the route I'm on. But I am glad there aren't many seeking that route, I wouldn't like to be faced with the futureliner pricing! ;D  I might have to step down to an MCI or (gasp) a Prevost.  ;D  :o  ::)  :P  ;)

This busnut community would be awfully booring if everyone thought alike.


On a similar note, not everyone has the same needs or goals, so I wonder what people get out of putting down the path others choose?

So to everyone in this sometimes crazy hobby, I wish you nothing but success & happiness in the path of YOUR choosing.  ;D

Peace out

90 Total votes thus far.

I know there must be many more out there!

Out of over 1700 members I can only imagine that there must be a lot of bus-less bus-nuts.

Come on folks, vote if you have not done so..............PLEASE............... ;D ;D

Paul