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Title: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Barn Owl on March 17, 2008, 10:21:20 PM
Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: zubzub on March 17, 2008, 10:28:19 PM
Good Lord that is not pleasant looking to me.  I remember seeing a lot of twin steer buses in mexico years ago, so maybe that is one, but really I know nothing about it, just that I'm going to have trouble sleeping now.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: chazwood on March 18, 2008, 06:23:00 AM
Look mom!!!!!....... the Pepto-cruiser!!!!!
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on March 18, 2008, 06:48:49 AM
Looks like a SUPER SCENICRUISER! Don't let Kyle see it, or there will be a mission/road trip too MEXICO! LOL! 

Sorry Kyle couldn't resist!

;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Chaz on March 18, 2008, 07:39:30 AM
Wow. Sans the paint, that is a neat looking sled!!
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 07:48:16 AM
I believe that's a Sultana, which is the company that now can make or obtain windshields and other curved glass for the Flx's of the 30's - 60's vintage
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Nusa on March 18, 2008, 07:48:50 AM
That has to be a photoshop fake, at least in part. There's no side window of any kind for the driver.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on March 18, 2008, 07:53:47 AM
Quote from: Nusa on March 18, 2008, 07:48:50 AM
That has to be a photoshop fake, at least in part. There's no side window of any kind for the driver.

Do you not see that custom camper opening window right where the driver sits? Looks real enough for me! After all I've seen lots worse, especially that MCI Renaissance wannabe on ebay several weeks ago! ;D  BK  ;D

PS with a paint job like that Kyle's wife might even let him bring this one home (to the house that is! LOL!) ! LOL!
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 08:15:15 AM
Judging from the tiny windows, I would say they are fanatically following the minimal glass approach mentioned in another thread (http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=7658.msg75371#msg75371).  A good example of a simple truth taken to an extreme.  But then it does get very hot down in some parts of Mexico.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: TomC on March 18, 2008, 08:18:29 AM
I don't quite understand the reasoning behind the minimal and small windows.  We're cruising to see what we can see-how do you do that from inside a metal tube with tiny windows.  As compared to my bus that has huge windows-that both my wife and I are constantly enjoying.  But-everyone does it their way.  Good Luck, TomC
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 08:29:28 AM
Quote from: TomC on March 18, 2008, 08:18:29 AM
I don't quite understand the reasoning behind the minimal and small windows.  We're cruising to see what we can see-how do you do that from inside a metal tube with tiny windows.  As compared to my bus that has huge windows-that both my wife and I are constantly enjoying.  But-everyone does it their way.  Good Luck, TomC

I agree Tom.  That is one of the things we love about my RTS - large, good looking tinted windows, yet still has strong vertical support at the junciton of each 5' section.  I use heavy curtain's when needed and really haven't had that big of a thermal problem from the large windows.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Hartley on March 18, 2008, 10:13:45 AM
Large windows might instill yet more fear...

If you don't know that you are driving along a mountain ridge highway with a sheer drop off you won't get as nervous.

Yes that is a Sultana and Yes they did build tandem front steers.

Based on a cross between a Flxible VL100 and Scenicruiser and a lot of imagination.

At least that is what I thought I read about them. They were very creative with the old style buses and lots of frilly things....

Dave....
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: kyle4501 on March 18, 2008, 10:26:02 AM
I draw the line at 10 tires for a bus!

12 tires would make it too expensive to operate!  :o

Looks like they did a through job of fowling the lines of the Scenicruiser!

Now If Pat McNeil had added the second steer axle to his big red . . . . .
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 11:09:43 AM
I did a little playing with Photoshop and the properties of the photo.
All I could find was that the photo was enhanced to make it brighter and remove some of the contrast.
The drivers window for the picture looks like it probably is real, and that some of our brethren below the border don't feel a need to see what is coming from the side.
I blocked out a window on the side of our 4103 behind the drivers window and it really sucked big green wieners. It is amazing how many times I actually used that window to see what was coming up from the left side, especially when at a stop sign that was placed at an acute angle to the road I was trying to enter.

Dallas

Quote from: Nusa on March 18, 2008, 07:48:50 AM
That has to be a photoshop fake, at least in part. There's no side window of any kind for the driver.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 11:09:43 AM
The drivers window for the picture looks like it probably is real, and that some of our brethren below the border don't feel a need to see what is coming from the side.
I blocked out a window on the side of our 4103 behind the drivers window and it really sucked big green wieners. It is amazing how many times I actually used that window to see what was coming up from the left side, especially when at a stop sign that was placed at an acute angle to the road I was trying to enter.

If you've ever driven near the border, you find that a lot of Mexican drivers don't care much if anything is beside them or coming around to pass.  A lot of the old trucks and pickups just the other side of the border don't even have rear view mirrors, nobody cares.  And, like many U.S. drivers, they don't believe in the use of turn signals.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 12:00:54 PM
What's a turn signal?

Quote from: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 11:09:43 AM
The drivers window for the picture looks like it probably is real, and that some of our brethren below the border don't feel a need to see what is coming from the side.
I blocked out a window on the side of our 4103 behind the drivers window and it really sucked big green wieners. It is amazing how many times I actually used that window to see what was coming up from the left side, especially when at a stop sign that was placed at an acute angle to the road I was trying to enter.

If you've ever driven near the border, you find that a lot of Mexican drivers don't care much if anything is beside them or coming around to pass.  A lot of the old trucks and pickups just the other side of the border don't even have rear view mirrors, nobody cares.  And, like many U.S. drivers, they don't believe in the use of turn signals.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 01:50:56 PM
Quote from: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 12:00:54 PM
What's a turn signal?

Quote from: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 11:51:42 AM
Quote from: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 11:09:43 AM
The drivers window for the picture looks like it probably is real, and that some of our brethren below the border don't feel a need to see what is coming from the side.
I blocked out a window on the side of our 4103 behind the drivers window and it really sucked big green wieners. It is amazing how many times I actually used that window to see what was coming up from the left side, especially when at a stop sign that was placed at an acute angle to the road I was trying to enter.

If you've ever driven near the border, you find that a lot of Mexican drivers don't care much if anything is beside them or coming around to pass.  A lot of the old trucks and pickups just the other side of the border don't even have rear view mirrors, nobody cares.  And, like many U.S. drivers, they don't believe in the use of turn signals.

Those are the pretty blinking lights on the rear of vehicles that sometimes accidentally get activated by drivers.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Len Silva on March 18, 2008, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: Dallas on March 18, 2008, 07:48:16 AM
I believe that's a Sultana, which is the company that now can make or obtain windshields and other curved glass for the Flx's of the 30's - 60's vintage

Now here is a man that knows his buses, Sultana it is!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1969-Sultana-GMC-Super-Panoramico-4-Axle-Bus-Ad-Mexico_W0QQitemZ350036739690QQihZ022QQcategoryZ4151QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
http://classicbuses.net/detalle.php?id=Sulta
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 05:09:11 PM
And a little magnifying glass confirms it by the name on the front of it.

Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Green-Hornet on March 18, 2008, 05:36:12 PM
If it was mine I would ditch the pink paint and put a few tasteful chrome accents on it to make it look like this......
(https://busconversionmagazine.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faycu38.webshots.com%2Fimage%2F48477%2F2006047666221212584_th.jpg&hash=e8d4e975e2e1ab6b0b7ecb756af865e4e46fc39a) (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006047666221212584)
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: jackhartjr on March 18, 2008, 09:54:25 PM
Now Bryce...Kyle's wife has more class than that! ;D
Jack
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Melbo on March 19, 2008, 09:02:22 AM
When you get south of the border and are following a truck they put on the left turn signal to let you know that you can pass --- It's a custom that is hard to get used to I kept thinking they were going to slow down and turn.

Melbo
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: prevost82 on March 19, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
I agree Melbo ... I think the mexican (in Mexico) uses their turn signals and 4 way flashers way more than in Canada or the US and they mean something. As far as vehicles with no mirrors ... I guess you haven't been down south for a while, the cars, trucks and buses are as new and numerous as anything you will see in the US or Canada. Yes they drive agressively, but have you ever driven throw Houston or LA ... same thing to me.
Ron
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: HighTechRedneck on March 19, 2008, 12:57:01 PM
You're right, it has been a long time since I was down there.  But then too, my experiences were in the poor border areas, not the industrial, aggricultural or tourist zones.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: Songman on March 19, 2008, 12:59:22 PM
Quote from: HighTechRedneck on March 18, 2008, 11:51:42 AM
If you've ever driven near the border, you find that a lot of Mexican drivers don't care much if anything is beside them or coming around to pass. 

You don't have to go down to the border for that. That is how they are here in Bakersfield too. Of course, I think there are more Mexicans living here than there are still in Mexico.
Title: Re: Is this one of those old Mexican buses?
Post by: gtd on March 19, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
There is one of these buses at a campground in Weatherford Texas.  I believe it is across the I-20 from the Home Depot.

It is sitting in the back of the campground in the storage area.  It is somewhat converted, but needs lots of work.  I don't know if it for sale, but it has been there for a least 9 years.