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Title: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 05:10:19 AM
the P8M4905A did not air up so Unless she wants to take $2000 for it I'm going to pass on it Too many issues for me to get bogged down in


my dad offered to help out when I told him the $$$ I have saved and I told him the only way I would take his help is if we got a 4501

I don't want a bus with a K$$$$$$ conversion I got 2 small kids something like "Custom Coach" is useless to me. I might as well get out the hammer my self and beat on the walls

I don't care if the coach has 5,000,000 mi on it. My last one did It worked fine

I may have a beer pocket book But I drink Kulmbacher EKU 28,or 27
I leave the champagne to people that like fizzy grape juice   

                           mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 07:19:27 AM
sorry to bus your dreams but unless you can get kyle to part with one agian I think you are getting into a cheap bus that is going to cost you alot.

ther eis one on www.sellabus for 15k.  thats likely the cheapest you will find

figure there is less than 100 of these things still salvagable
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: JackConrad on February 03, 2008, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 05:10:19 AM
the P8M4905A did not air up so Unless she wants to take $2000 for it I'm going to pass on it Too many issues for me to get bogged down in

Just curious, did it not air up with the engine mounted air compressor?  Did you try airing it up with a shop type portable air compressor?  Jack
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: JackConrad on February 03, 2008, 09:13:59 AM
Quote from: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 05:10:19 AM
the P8M4905A did not air up so Unless she wants to take $2000 for it I'm going to pass on it Too many issues for me to get bogged down in

Just curious, did it not air up with the engine mounted air compressor?  Did you try airing it up with a shop type portable air compressor?  Jack

Jack
        well a lot of people told me here. If it did not drive. It was worth scrap value. On Thursday I'll air it up. My van is down now (cant drive over there) and It's takes me a few days to get parts out here

If it airs with a home compressor then I'll offer her 2K $1500 is the scrap Value everyone agreed here so $500 for the stuff in the bus It(the stuff) might be worth more than $500 but all of it is untried So if it was striped off the bus and laying in a pile What would It be worth? With around 10K I can get a bus that will do what I need it to do. Without havening to work on it for 3 months\

I did see a ok 4501 goo for 9K 3 months ago

           mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 07:19:27 AM
sorry to bus your dreams but unless you can get kyle to part with one agian I think you are getting into a cheap bus that is going to cost you alot.

ther eis one on www.sellabus for 15k.  thats likely the cheapest you will find

figure there is less than 100 of these things still salvagable


is it this one ??? http://www.sellabus.com/hyser.html

  thanks

         mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
yeppp... 19k sorry.......bet if you showed with 15 it would be yours.

Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: Len Silva on February 03, 2008, 11:36:58 AM
I am not usually in the position but I have found that if you show up with a reasonable offer and a stack of hundred dollar bills, the seller is quick to accept.  This is especially true after all the tire kickers and dreamers with no money have come and gone.

Len
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 12:28:09 PM
Quote from: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
yeppp... 19k sorry.......bet if you showed with 15 it would be yours.



11K in $20's? I'll take a gift letter .Here in MO. What tax value are they going to assign ? $2500?

                      mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: belfert on February 03, 2008, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 10:07:26 AM
Quote from: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 07:19:27 AM
sorry to bus your dreams but unless you can get kyle to part with one agian I think you are getting into a cheap bus that is going to cost you alot.

ther eis one on www.sellabus for 15k.  thats likely the cheapest you will find

figure there is less than 100 of these things still salvagable


is it this one ??? http://www.sellabus.com/hyser.html

I've seen this bus in person in April 2006.  He didn't mention it being for sale then.

Do note that I bought a 7.5KW Onan diesel generator from him when I was there in April 2006 that had been in the bus.  I suspect the generator is no longer there unless he bought another one.  The ad is probably old and wasn't updated.
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 02:06:45 PM
dmv's  have no base to assess a value of any coach, Seated or  converted.

most states will reqwuire a VIN verification if brought in from out of state......DO NOT have this done by the DMV.

Either case...a seated coach or a Motorhome title.......put a sale price that you are OK with paying taxes on......(I'm OK  giving   some money but not all of it...LOL)

they will have no idea what it is worth, what condition it is in or it's value.

if someone calls you on it say that it was a junker, burnt, misisng an engine  or    some other "story"

GIft letters generally  do not  cut the muster anymore......and often draw attention to the deal by management.

Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: jackhartjr on February 03, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
I don't remember the numbers, but when I titled #945 in NC from FL it was very little, seems like I paid $75.00 plus fees.
Jack
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: Dallas on February 03, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
I was just offered a running, drivable PD4501 here in Summerville, Alabama for $3500.

I got no information on it, I got no phone number, I got no nuttin'.

The guy came up to me and was talking to me at the flea market here. He likes old buses, and likes our 4103 because of the front end.

I told Cat, (the wife), what he wanted for it and she wasn't impressed since we just bought an MC9 that we have to go start converting soon up in Chattanooga.

If you want more information, get in touch with the flea market here, come down and spend a weekend at the flea market with a sign up letting people know what you are looking for and see if you can make a deal.

Right now it looks like we'll be here a few more days so if I see the fella again, I'll ask him.

Dallas
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 04:33:45 PM
pics and info or it didn;t happen....LOL

you should have bought it just for the value of the parts.

Kyle would have paid twice that for it
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: Dallas on February 03, 2008, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: tekebird on February 03, 2008, 04:33:45 PM
pics and info or it didn;t happen....LOL

you should have bought it just for the value of the parts.

Kyle would have paid twice that for it

Doug,

You missed the part where Cat wasn't impressed.

That puts the KI-bosh on anything I'm interested in.

After all, I do have to live with the most perfect, Venus-est like lady that was ever borne by the onion of man and woman!

That trumps whatever I feel about a new GMC.. I was lucky to talk her into our 4103!

Dallas
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: cody on February 03, 2008, 04:48:06 PM
"Onion"? lol
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 05:05:07 PM
Quote from: Dallas on February 03, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
I was just offered a running, drivable PD4501 here in Summerville, Alabama for $3500.

I got no information on it, I got no phone number, I got no nuttin'.

The guy came up to me and was talking to me at the flea market here. He likes old buses, and likes our 4103 because of the front end.

I told Cat, (the wife), what he wanted for it and she wasn't impressed since we just bought an MC9 that we have to go start converting soon up in Chattanooga.

If you want more information, get in touch with the flea market here, come down and spend a weekend at the flea market with a sign up letting people know what you are looking for and see if you can make a deal.

Right now it looks like we'll be here a few more days so if I see the fella again, I'll ask him.

Dallas

If you can get any Info Or tell me the name of the flea market and I can find him I can be there on the weekend of the 16th with a stack of $20's

                mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: kyle4501 on February 03, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
Damn Dallas, you could at least got his name & number & shared it here. Thanks for not letting me know about it. I'd probably have tried to get it.

As for it being worth anything in parts . . . It had better be either seated or have a lot of great conversion stuff. There is a limited, very limited market for Scenicruiser parts. I'd be surprised if there were more than 500 left in good enough shape to have any possibility of ever hitting the road. & of those, just how many owners are looking for parts? Most parts are adaptable from other sources. The only real issue for spare parts is the curved glass - especially the rear window. But Plexiglas can be substituted for most.

Butchered scenics don't bring much, & if they don't run the cost of moving them can be high.
There is a real good reason I have been given 4.

Mike, if you do get a 4501, be ready for lots of advice on what you should have gotten from 'experts' that don't even own one.  ;D


(Added)
Oh, Pete was reluctant to put his bus up for sale, but his inability to use it forced him. . . . But recently, he had a favorable turn of events that has opened up the future possibilities.  So if you plan on low-balling him on price, don't be surprised if you get an adamant rejection.
(If it were me, I'd not only adamantly reject a low ball offer, I'd probably add some personal insults of my own!  ;D )

Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 03, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
Quote from: kyle4501 on February 03, 2008, 06:22:24 PM
Damn Dallas, you could at least got his name & number & shared it here. Thanks for not letting me know about it. I'd probably have tried to get it.

As for it being worth anything in parts . . . It had better be either seated or have a lot of great conversion stuff. There is a limited, very limited market for Scenicruiser parts. I'd be surprised if there were more than 500 left in good enough shape to have any possibility of ever hitting the road. & of those, just how many owners are looking for parts? Most parts are adaptable from other sources. The only real issue for spare parts is the curved glass - especially the rear window. But Plexiglas can be substituted for most.

Butchered scenics don't bring much, & if they don't run the cost of moving them can be high.
There is a real good reason I have been given 4.

Mike, if you do get a 4501, be ready for lots of advice on what you should have gotten from 'experts' that don't even own one.  ;D


(Added)
Oh, Pete was reluctant to put his bus up for sale, but his inability to use it forced him. . . . But recently, he had a favorable turn of events that has opened up the future possibilities.  So if you plan on low-balling him on price, don't be surprised if you get an adamant rejection.
(If it were me, I'd not only adamantly reject a low ball offer, I'd probably add some personal insults of my own!  ;D )



kyle

  I had herd about Pete before. I know he loves his 4501 That is why I did not contact him I heard he did not want to sell it any more

on the other hand I have been trying to get a 4501 for 20 years I don't always have the $$$ but I keep looking At this time once more I have some $$$ Not what some people think is much $$ But I can try once more for a 4501 Last time I ended up with a 53' TDM It was fun Now I want to run with the big dogs in the tall grass

   mike
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: randsgmc5302 on February 05, 2008, 08:46:58 AM
I know of a scenicruiser in Wisconsin for sale call Randy @ two six two four nine eight 7878
Title: Re: PD4501 for 9k or less any one got one for sale?
Post by: mike davis on February 05, 2008, 04:12:44 PM
Quote from: randsgmc5302 on February 05, 2008, 08:46:58 AM
I know of a scenicruiser in Wisconsin for sale call Randy @ two six two four nine eight 7878

I'll call soon
               thank you for finding it

                   mike