As an update to a previous posting, I've just changed the oil and decided to use Walmart's TECH 2000 SAE 40. To verify that it meets the 6V92TA requirements, I found the certification license at http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseInfo.asp?LicenseNo%3D0791 (http://eolcs.api.org/DisplayLicenseInfo.asp?LicenseNo%3D0791). It is listed as CF-2 (formerly CD-II), so I am comfortable with this decision -- except that the ash content remains a mystery.
Now we can wander into any Walmart and find the right oil anywhere in Canada, without worrying about mixing grades or brands. For US journeys, we'll have to bring a pail or two, I guess, since it seems to be a Walmart Canada thing only.
Folks in the border states might want to grab some on a visit North. We paid $32.60 ea. (CDN) for a couple of 20 liter pails (about 5.28 US gallons), leaving over half a pail after the change.
It's nice to get some maintenance work done, so we can focus on the conversion and some travel plans for the warmer seasons.
Don
Update: fixed flaky link (I hope).
Update 2: Darn, it worked yesterday.
lyndon. that oil is Citgo Citgard ash is 0.9 we can buy 30 w here in the states but I have not saw 40w in WM in the states
That is a sweet price. I'm using Petrocan Duron 40 that I get at the local farm store but I think I'm paying closer to $50 a pail for it.
Canadian Tire also has 40 wt CF11 approx same price
We found Canadian CF-2 oils a good deal, too.
Tom Caffrey
First off- how much is in a pail (must be a Canadian thing?). Personally would use the best oil possible-which is the Chevron Delo 100 sae40- it is THE oil that Detroit Diesel used in developing the 2 stroker way back, and the oil that was used for many years by bus companies.
One of the reasons Canada Wal Marts carry the CF-2 oils is that Canada (and Alaska too) have alot more percentage of 2 stroker trucks running than here in the US (it's rare to see a 2 stroker in a truck anymore) mainly because of the ease at which they start and run in cold weather. If you have a 2 stroker that is hard and cranky to start in cold weather it is in need of at least a tune up and more likely a rebuild. Good Luck, TomC
I've used the Tech 2000 brand of oil for years with no problems.
It states right on it that it meets all requirements for Detroit diesels.
For all I know it may be Delo under the Walmart brand.
Personally I think any oil is OK as long as it's 40W (or 30W when the temp is below freezing) formulated for diesels. It's nice if it's CF2.
The two strokes were designed so long ago they probably just salvaged a road killed dinosaur and stuck the carcass in the pan.
Tom C; a pail in Canada is 20 liters or 5.2 US gals or 4.4 Imp gals
Thank you!
The problem Tom is that Chevron is not commonly available in Canada. I have stuck with Duron 40 because that is what is most available for me but I really don't know whether it is any good or not. I test it regularly & it routinely tests good at 20,000 km so it can't be too bad but its not cheap.
I've mentionned it before and here it is again:
Petro-Canada makes "Dieseltonic", 40 weight, low ash, specifically for 2 stroke Detroit Diesels, available at bulk plants. Look it up on Petro-Canada.com.
I long ago concluded that all oil is the same that meets the same specs. It comes down huge pipelines or in huge tankers and is mixed up all along the line then goes into containers with all different brands on them!!
I see no way there could ever be any difference in them. Same song for fuels.
gus: In general, petroleum products are pipelined as a generic product and then different companies add their particular additives before it reaches the consumer.
The same is true for many consumer products. The corn may have come out of the same field for two different brands of corn flakes that don't taste the same.
Quote from: Stan on January 14, 2008, 06:01:25 AM
The corn may have come out of the same field for two different brands of corn flakes that don't taste the same.
I was hoping to avoid the SAE 40 taste test!
Don