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Title: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 09:41:23 AM
Hi Guy's,

Since Ron White says that there is no doctor remedy to cure Stupid!    I want to see if you guy's have a solution to prevent Stupid.

Two weeks ago, while returning home on the Cape May Ferry from Bruce Knees house, it happened again...

An elderly couple were too lazy to walk around my toad and decided to try and step over the tow hitch and the elder women tripped

and fell to the steel deck. I even herd the thump from in the bus. I looked in my monitor and saw her laying on the ground...

Of course I ran out and helped them both but, I have to put a stop to this some how.

Any simple Ideas??

Thanks Again
Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Dreamscape on October 29, 2007, 09:44:43 AM
A red flag on a stick or a blinking yellow caution light or a sign that says "If you cross this you are STUPID"

Paul
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: kyle4501 on October 29, 2007, 09:48:29 AM
How do you warn against the obvious?

Maybe a yellow caution flag in the middle of the hitch? ?
But that would require the idiots to be able to read.
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: ChuckMC9 on October 29, 2007, 10:04:28 AM
Hey Nick, where's the photo of her laying sprawled out on the ground??! LOL

Things like this are why the insurance cos love to sell you umbrella liability. Imagine a world where that was somehow your fault.

Common sense? Not so common with the masses.

Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: cody on October 29, 2007, 10:04:48 AM
Nick, the solution here is really quite simple and obvious, if you heard the thud, then you need more insulation and soundproofing. lol
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: luvrbus on October 29, 2007, 10:13:08 AM
Nick, i don't know how you will stop this i have had my engine running and the bus in gear and look in the camera and people stepping over the tow bar.some people are like turkeys just stupid
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: belfert on October 29, 2007, 10:26:31 AM
Nothing short of something almost solid will stop everyone. 

I drove a tram for several years at a yearly event.  We had cables between the cars with flags on them.  People went right through the flags.  I finally attached green colored construction fence to the cables and that stopped the problem totally.

Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 10:31:24 AM
I'm thinking of two poles with a bungie between them...

All great answers so far, thanks

I'll let you know what I construct, gonna tackle it this afternoon

Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: JohnEd on October 29, 2007, 10:58:18 AM
Nick,

Next time, run out and shout "SAFE" and wave your arms over the prostrated competitor like a major league umpire would do.  Then pretend you are brushing off an imaginary home plate.  Sometimes "crazy" trumps "stupid"....sometimes "not".  I did that once while standing in a line to enter a restaraunt.  My date was mortified till the guy a couple of places behind me yelled "yo!  Ump.  Good Call" in a distinctly Brooklyn accent. That woman weighed 300 pounds if she weighed an ounce and my back would not have tolerated the futile effort on my part.

HTH

John
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Nusa on October 29, 2007, 11:01:57 AM
A coil of razor wire might do it.

Or how about a bright colored bungie cord between the top of the toad's hood and a similar spot on the bus (license plate bracket, engine compartment handle, etc)?
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: captain ron on October 29, 2007, 11:04:27 AM
A motion sensor that activates a recording of a Pit Bull attacking  ;D
Or a train horn.
Or a recording that says in a big echoy booming voice " HELLO STUPID THIS IS GOD, ONE MORE STEP AND YOUR COMING WITH ME , AND I'M DROPPING YOU OFF AT SATAN"S PLACE"  ;D
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: FloridaCliff on October 29, 2007, 12:14:09 PM
Nick,

You can't win on this one!

If you put a couple traffic type flags and then they slip and impale themselves on them, then what!

If you had a small sign made that says "Caution, do not climb over", are you admitting that there is a danger?

You can not legislate or stop someone who doesn't use a little common sense.

Cliff

Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Kristinsgrandpa on October 29, 2007, 12:26:22 PM
How about a couple of bungee cords to hold up a yellow barrier tape on each side stating "POLICE LINE, DO NOT CROSS"

Ed
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Hartley on October 29, 2007, 12:30:17 PM
Add a post at each center of the tow bar system. Use a fiberglass mast or fishing rod material as the poles and install a section of the Bright Orange construction barrier netting between the vehicles.

It also will help limit bike riders and kids from trying to cut through at night...

Dave.....


Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: captain ron on October 29, 2007, 12:35:13 PM
2 pvc poles one on each vehicle. charge with static electricity put up a Stupid xing sign and have fun
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Gary LaBombard on October 29, 2007, 12:46:19 PM
See if you can find plastic but looking very much like the real thing Barbed Wire, stretch it across between the bus and Toad!!  Good grief, your right this was stupid of them. 

Maybe a very loud audible alarm that is motion activated from the back & the sides of the bus from either direction.  I am not sure if this is possible without the alarm activating on turns but maybe something we can find out from others.  There has to be something to do, even if not your fault of coarse it would be hard to get past the thought of a serious injury.

Lets figure out how to prevent this also between us all.

Gary
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Post by: Kristinsgrandpa on October 29, 2007, 12:53:20 PM
If you figure out something good you can market it on ebay and make some fuel money. Insurance companies might chip in a little incentive also.

Ed
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: captain ron on October 29, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
The ultimate cure would be to outlaw stupid people from having sex  ;D
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT....
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 01:24:44 PM
You guy's were reading my mind...

Well, Here it is..   and sure, I'll market it if anybody is intrested. Lol

Welded two 3" pieces of thinwall pipe to the hitch, painted two pieces of pvc pipe with polycarbenate orange, drilled two

holes, then installed an orange bungie cord.....WALA!

Thanks for the help
Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 01:37:44 PM
Now, If someone can make me a sign that says..

Come-on, Are You STUPID!  to hang from the bungie....

Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: bubbaqgal on October 29, 2007, 01:38:52 PM
Nick, I think maybe you need another bungie about 1/2 way down.  I have a feeling that some idiot is still going to try to crawl through.
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Dreamscape on October 29, 2007, 01:43:25 PM
Looks good Nick,

But........Stupid is as Stupid does.......

Paul
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 01:43:32 PM
Hi Cat,

If they do, I have a 5lb sledge hammer, spring loaded where there head will be while crawling under the bungie

to finish the job of STUPID....

Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Dreamscape on October 29, 2007, 01:46:10 PM
I still think a sensor pointed up with a very loud siren would work.....It might scare the crap out of them though....Then you have another problem.... ;D

Paul
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Lee Bradley on October 29, 2007, 01:56:55 PM
Stupidity cannot be cured with money, or through education, or by legislation. Stupidity is not a sin, the victim can't help being stupid. But stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death, there is no appeal and execution is carried out automatically and without pity.
  Robert Heinlein's "Time Enough for Love"

Kind of surprised they lasted this long.
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Slow Rider on October 29, 2007, 02:03:42 PM
Nick,

Where do you plug it in?  Without electricity, that just won't be any fun......:)

Frank
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: bobofthenorth on October 29, 2007, 02:06:06 PM
Ridiculous as this sounds if you do something to acknowledge that you think it is a risk then you may be leaving yourself open to a lawsuit.  The example I am thinking of is the farmer who puts up a "beware of the dog" sign.  That leaves him liable if the dog then bites someone.  Absent the sign he can argue that he didn't know the dog was dangerous.

If anyone is stupid enough to trip crossing my towbar they better hope that:
a) I don't pull ahead and drive over their stupid carcass
b) They don't get a leg caught between the bars and break it followed by a)

There ain't no cure for stupid.

Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: brojcol on October 29, 2007, 02:28:51 PM
Have any of you ever heard of the Darwin Awards?

These are given each year to the people who graciously removed themselves from the Human gene pool through their own stupidity.

http://www.darwinawards.com/
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: bubbaqgal on October 29, 2007, 02:48:06 PM
Makes the sign say something like "Fragile equipment, Damage it and pay for it"  LOL
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: HB of CJ on October 29, 2007, 02:57:12 PM
Stuped, Stupid...stupid.....stupid......STUPID!!!   (My knees and elbows are STILL bruised!)  He.he.he.he.  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: JohnEd on October 29, 2007, 03:10:13 PM
Charlie,

You get the prize for "Gods voice" entry.

Thanks for the laugh,

John
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Busted Knuckle on October 29, 2007, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: JohnEd on October 29, 2007, 03:10:13 PM
Charlie,

You get the prize for "Gods voice" entry.

Thanks for the laugh,

John

Which one do you use though? Morgan Freedman or George Burns? LOL!
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: NewbeeMC9 on October 29, 2007, 05:30:23 PM
Since u can't beat stupid, just put on steps with a slide on the otherside




or tie a string from front of toad to back of bus  about 2 feet above towbar.  pulling it blows toad horn.  hang sign on it that says "Idiot Handle"     or "Caution! Desexing Hazard"

you might stop the lazy Dummies and maybe slow the more industrious ones.


You could also put a mirror up and they will think there going the wrong way ;D



MAybe "towbar jumping" could be a contest at the next rally :D
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: wvanative on October 29, 2007, 05:55:46 PM
Get an infrared sensor and speaker system that says

"ah,ah,ah, Now I know what you are thinking, is it a three ton, or a four ton bus, and quit honestly in all the excitement of the conversion I've lost track of the tonage myself. Now you have to make a decision, You are looking at the biggest bus ever made and if you fall it could run clean over you and squish you flat,  So you have to ask yourself, do I fell lucky today. Well Punk Do You?   8)

WVaNative
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Ednj on October 29, 2007, 06:03:48 PM
Nick,
You should just glue a sex toy in the center of the tow bar .
I bet no one would step over that and if they do you already have the camera there lol. ;D
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: Ednj on October 29, 2007, 06:03:48 PM
Nick,
You should just glue a sex toy in the center of the tow bar .
I bet no one would step over that and if they do you already have the camera there lol. ;D

ED,
I will NOT lay on the tow bar.........   
Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on October 29, 2007, 06:40:43 PM
I just found some good signs for the bungie cord...

Nick-
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: mc8 tin tent on October 29, 2007, 06:47:46 PM
Nick
How about the bright colored noodles you use around the swimming pool bent into a upside down  u  ,A little bigger in diameter ,an a little harder to miss.(also if they fall on it maybe they wont get hurt)  they can live another day to fall under some-one else's  wheels.
   Dwayne
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Jerry Liebler on October 29, 2007, 07:02:48 PM
Would a pair of Tasers triggered by motion detectors work?
Regards
Jerry 4107 1120
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Tony LEE on October 29, 2007, 09:40:24 PM
Move to Australia -- only 20 million people here so lots less stupid people.
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: superpickle on October 30, 2007, 07:29:53 AM
A Radar guided Laser !

Just put a lil fence on the tongue so its not so low, they will go around..
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Chaz on October 30, 2007, 07:48:15 AM
I like it Nick. But the lawsuit thing IS real! It's like if you shovel snow off your sidewalk and someone falls, it's your fault for not doing a better job. If you don't touch it, it's not your fault. Absolutely ignorant.
  This has been a fun thread, and I really like allot of these ideas!! But, isn't it really sad.

  My favorite saying:
      "Studid people shouldn't breed."  

    Chaz
Title: Re: Short Cut? NOT.... SOLVED!
Post by: Gary '79 5C on November 03, 2007, 06:12:28 AM
Nick,

I had to wait till now, to simply ask two questions:

1.  Just how bad did YOU hit your shin on the towbar ?

2.  Just why did you "throw" that imaginary old lady under da bus ?

Take care, & Don't send pics of your shins.......

Gary