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Title: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 03, 2007, 05:03:35 PM
Sort of a silly question to a seasoned busnut, but please help contribute to my bus education. If you search for "bus" under RV's & Campers on the E-booty Motors site, it will currently pull up a coach described as a 1969 Liberty Coach Prevost Challenger, however the coach looks suspiciously like a MCI MC-7 to my untrained eye... any opinions.

Thanks
BusCrazyTom the Analog Dinosaur
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 03, 2007, 05:13:51 PM
your untrained eye aint so untrained.

there is no mistaking that as an MC-7.

Ignorant seller agent is my conclusion and likely an owner got it in an estate or the like and knows squat as well
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 03, 2007, 05:21:17 PM
looks to be in good shape..with that said I ahve looked at ones that photograhed better than this that were ragged out rode hard and put away wet.

29k from new???? Doubtful unless documented.

Not sure but in 69 there were no Red Detroits.

Red Detroits are a sign of a reliabuilt engine in that time period.

was not until the mid 70's when red engines were installed with Automatics.


but just from condition.....that is no 29k engine that was garage kept it's whole life.
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 03, 2007, 05:37:44 PM
Thank you, Mr. Wotring, for letting me know I was on the mark. Looks like my bus studies are paying off. I happen to agree with you regarding the engine. Doesn't look very well kept to me.

Thanks again for the confirmation.

Tom Weeks
BusCrazyTom the Analog Dinosaur
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 03, 2007, 05:54:30 PM
my MC-8 has 170k Documented miles and looks far better than that one
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Hi yo silver on July 03, 2007, 08:43:27 PM
When checking out the e-place, you often see headings like this.  The seller wants a potential looker/buyer to pull up his listing, regardless of what kind of bus title they type in, so they list it under every kind of bus or conversion they can think of; i.e. Liberty, Prevost, Challenger, GM, whatever.
Dennis
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 12:48:31 AM
Yes, I see people misrepresent buses quite often. I'm just a newbie,actually still a busnot at this point, but I'm shopping around. I'm just a stickler for accuracy in representation of things people try to sell.

Tom
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 04, 2007, 05:15:42 AM
pretty certain they just don't kow squat....there is no mention of MCI anywhere so the Concept of using multiple words for search engine sake isn't in play here.
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 05:36:22 AM
I agree sir, that its more likely ignorance than intended deception, but misinformation all the same. I could see that a non-bus savvy seller could look at it and think it was a Prevost due to the fact most Liberty conversions I am aware of are. I was really just trying to determine if it was actually something valid I'd never heard of, but the resemblance to an MC-7 was just too much a dead giveaway.
Being so new to buses I just needed a pro's confirmation.

Tom
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 04, 2007, 09:19:33 AM
Quote from: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 05:36:22 AM
I was really just trying to determine if it was actually something valid I'd never heard of, but the resemblance to an MC-7 was just too much a dead giveaway.
Being so new to buses I just needed a pro's confirmation.

Tom

So why are ya asking here? LOL ! We're all just a bunch of a little bit more experienced amatures than you! LOL! Just kid'n there are some very well experienced amatures HERE ! LOL! BK  ;D
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 09:32:12 AM
BK,

If you guys are amateurs, then that makes me really a hack! LOL!
Gotta ask questions to get my information before I plunk my hard earned money down on a bus, 'cos I'm going to live with it a long time.  ;D
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 04, 2007, 09:56:05 AM
Quote from: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 09:32:12 AM
BK,

If you guys are amateurs, then that makes me really a hack! LOL!
Gotta ask questions to get my information before I plunk my hard earned money down on a bus, 'cos I'm going to live with it a long time.  ;D

Hey Tom keep on asking and us "more experienced amatures" will keep on answering! And always remember the only DUMB question is the one that is not asked! (at least until it's too late ! LOL!) BK  ;D
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 04, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
Thanks to all of you who answered!

BusCrazyTom the Analog Dinosaur
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Green-Hornet on July 06, 2007, 06:31:32 PM
Still a neat looking bus. I have always been partial to the MCI 7. I just don't get the yellow light on the roof. ???
It could be an early Liberty conversion. I know the first one Liberty did was a GMC. I think they went exclusively with Prevost around 1982.
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 06, 2007, 08:57:41 PM
Yeah, I didn't understand the flashing light either, unless it means "Rolling Party...Get Out of The Way!"
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 06, 2007, 09:30:52 PM
light is for operation on Airports
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: BusCrazyTom on July 06, 2007, 11:44:17 PM
Ahh, I knew there was a logical explanation, just didn't know what.

BusCrazyTom the Analog Dinosaur
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Green-Hornet on July 09, 2007, 09:55:57 AM
I like the rolling party myself! ;D
The airport makes more sense....but not nearly as much fun!
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on July 09, 2007, 09:59:13 AM
Sure be nice if one of youse guys would post the eBay number.
Richard
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 09, 2007, 10:02:47 AM
Quote from: DrivingMissLazy on July 09, 2007, 09:59:13 AM
Sure be nice if one of youse guys would post the eBay number.
Richard

But it's more fun keeping youse in the dark! LOL! Seriously I haven't got a clue either!
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: Green-Hornet on July 09, 2007, 10:05:02 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-PREVOST-LIBERTY-RV-COACH-BUS-DIESEL-MOTORHOME-NICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50056QQihZ004QQitemZ140134856619QQrdZ1
Sorry bout that! Here is a link
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: DrivingMissLazy on July 09, 2007, 01:13:32 PM
Thanks. Looks like a great conversion for tail gate parties and tour groups maybe. He has modified the listing to indicate that he has been advised it is an MCI and not Prevost.
Richard
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: coolbus on July 09, 2007, 01:28:49 PM

Strange it took a whole fleet of mechanics to keep her runnun'!  Quote from ebay ad:


"Detroit Diesel runs perfect and has been well maintained by a fleet of the company's mechanics."

Mark
Title: Re: '69 Liberty Prevost Challenger or MC-7?
Post by: tekebird on July 09, 2007, 01:29:39 PM
but not that it has more than 29k.

check out the steering wheel wear?

Plus the Engine Red and it's condition.