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Title: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 10:33:31 AM
I need a little help with matching chassis compressor ???, my original is a carrier M# 5F30B634 of which I am familiar with and our local carrier dist. is good parts source ,but with that said I have acquired another compressor M#05GC137B10 of which seems to be approx. the same BTU. (judging from the evap.& condenser size ) Both are carrier compressors,the 5F...style has no elect. clutch and unloads cycl. as needed, the05G... with the clutch also has unloaders with the addition of the clutch which will stop the operation of the crankshaft and related parts( this may help my fuel economy if I can make the transition
or if it is worth all the trouble ) I know other remove the belts in the winter  but this makes me a little uneasy because of the possibility of slugging the compressor. In short(little late for that...SORRY  ::)) I have not been able to com up with any specs. or break down of the 05G style compressor!!
  Thanks in advance
  Dwayne
  PS my existing system is working fine an I converted it over to R134a

refrigerant 3 yrs. ago.
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 01, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
Dwayne what part of Evansville are you in? I'm at my sister's over by Liberty Pull A Part! Give me a call. Maybe my BIL & I can sneak by an meet ya, an look over what ya got. BK  ;D (270.705.1139)
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 01:14:07 PM
  BK
I e mailed ya. don't think it went through.
I will give you call
Dwayne
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: NJT 5573 on July 01, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
Dwayne,
I ain't no reefer mechanic.
I have a couple of reefer trailers with the clutch feature. They are wired to use the clutch as a safety switch. If the hi side goes over pressure or the low side goes to low, the engine will disconnect from the compressor. My units will not reconnect until they are manually turned off and restarted.
Those compressors have been used extensively in trucking so there is no shortage of parts or info. At one time I had 6 of those units and have the shop manual somewhere, if I can find it. A Carrier dealer can get you a manual or let you look at all their books.
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: Busted Knuckle on July 01, 2007, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 01:14:07 PM
  BK
I e mailed ya. don't think it went through.
I will give you call
Dwayne

Dwayne I checked my email & phone neither have any new msgs. The B-I-L  & I are gonna go see if we can find something to do. you can reach me on my phone or the B-I-L's 812.568.3263 (Bill)
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 02:54:28 PM
  NJT
Our local carrier rep. doesn't seem to have any books on these compressors,I will try again Monday  ( the problem may be they geared for comfort cooling and not for the motion industry) if I don't have any success  Is there a possibility of maybe getting a copy of yours? (I don't expect it for free!!)
Thanks
Dwayne
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: Dallas on July 01, 2007, 03:47:11 PM
Dwayne,

Check here: http://www.transportaircon.carrier.com/details/0,2806,CLI1_DIV8_ETI10093,00.html?SMSESSION=NO (http://www.transportaircon.carrier.com/details/0,2806,CLI1_DIV8_ETI10093,00.html?SMSESSION=NO)

Your manual is probably in there somewhere.

Edit: If you'll send me your email address I have the workshop manual for the O5G twin port and the 05G bus  compressor in PDF. I can send it to you

Dallas
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: tekebird on July 01, 2007, 04:56:39 PM
IIRC, the 05g is the newer and more efficient compressor it should have oval heads were the 30 has round heads
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 06:36:16 PM
 Tekebird
   Your rite the 5F is a three cyclender (round head design), AND THE 5G uses what looks to be the same as the o6D head & valve plate design.
  Thanks for the Info
  My e-mail DRMCOOL@SIGECOM.NET
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: Dallas on July 01, 2007, 07:15:11 PM
OK, Dwayne, they are on their way!

If anyone else wants the 05 series manuals, just holler, I'll upload them to my website for download
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 07:27:10 PM
THANKS DALLAS
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on July 01, 2007, 07:35:34 PM
Hi Dwayne,

I have a service manual on the Carrier 05G if you need any info from it.

Here are general specs for the 05G

Type: 6-cylinder, open drive
Oil level: ½ of sightglass
Displacement: 37 in ccc (606cm ccc) 41in ccc (672cm ccc) optional
Weight: 146 lb (66 kg) including clutch
Speed range: 400 - 2200 RPM (2500 RPM intermittent speeds acceptable)
Allowable belt side loading: 300 lb (136 kg)
Oil charge: 7 ¾ pints (3.67 liters)
Unloading steps: 33%; 67%
Higher capacity, effciency at lower speeds
Exclusive balanced six-cylinder design
Extended maintenance, lower operating costs
Larger capacity oil pump
Housing - mounted clutch and larger clutch bearing
Low oil circulation rate
Exclusive compressor unloading
Industry - leading warranty
Certified for use with R-134a, R-22, and R-12 refrigerants

Good Luck
Nick-
Title: Re: a/c compressor
Post by: mc8 tin tent on July 01, 2007, 08:44:54 PM
WHAT A GREAT GROUP!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
   Thanks everyone
  Dwayne