I went to help a older couple with their MCI he changed the fuel filters on the side of the road outside Needles and it lost prime. I didn't have any fuel in my can so I went to Needles and paid $7.95 for gal of diesel fuel that is crazy. He was low on fuel and was trying to make it to F/J or Loves in Lake Havasu, I got him across the river and filled up for $4.59 a gal, his wife Jill was all smiles full of fuel and tucked in at Casino's parking lot for the night. Ca should put a stop to the fuel gouging prices in Needles
For those of us poor paupers, I will have to significantly restrict my travel until fuel prices come down to a range I can afford. Definitely going to fill up BEFORE driving into California. I am glad I have a 238-gallon fuel tank, so I can afford to buy fuel in cheaper states and drive through more expensive ones.
Oil is a global market, we produce enough oil in West Texas alone for our need, but the producers in West Texas are not going to sell their oil or products any cheaper than they sell it for in the global market, so life goes on with foreign countries owning refineries here even Israel owns a large refinery in West Texas .If you look back we are paying about the same price as we did in 2023 and 2024 when prices were starting to drop from 2022
The 2022 FL-AK-FL round trip cost us $8400. For bus fuel
When we had the boat we used to fuel up in Seattle and then refuel in Ketchikan. You Americans don't know about fuel gouging until you come to Canada. Prices are even higher in Mexico.
Quote from: bobofthenorth on March 22, 2026, 06:49:27 PMWhen we had the boat we used to fuel up in Seattle and then refuel in Ketchikan. You Americans don't know about fuel gouging until you come to Canada. Prices are even higher in Mexico.
Nothing you can do about the price, it goes up faster than it comes down expect higher prices for April since oil is sold as a future commodity, folks will be taking shorter trips this summer. There is nothing in your daily life that petroleum doesn't have a connection too ,FWIW Sam's has the highest prices here for diesel and gasoline today, so the others will raise prices .I do feel bad for the people in CA ,we were overrun here with people from CA and NV filling up their boats Sunday along with hay haulers from CA
Gas here is at $2.99 and Diesel $4.33 was 4.09 just last week.
Gasoline, and diesel is always a good price in KS trucks and commercial vehicles pay by the mile with cab fuel permits not taxes. I liked crossing over to KS from OK to work, but I did not enjoy the paperwork for the cab permits or for buying off road fuel, and the toll roads suck
Don't do tolls. We stay on 70 to Topeka and 24 the rest of the places. We don;t go to KC and only Manhatten the other way..
Quote from: Dave5Cs on March 24, 2026, 10:12:15 AMDon't do tolls. We stay on 70 to Topeka and 24 the rest of the places. We don;t go to KC and only Manhatten the other way..
I have a long time friend he was my insurance agent in Tulas for over 20 years that has C stores all over Kansas he owns the Quick Trip chain, I hated the toll on !-35 going into Kansas that was a surprise paying to drive on a interstate
Quote from: Dave5Cs on March 24, 2026, 10:12:15 AMDon't do tolls. We stay on 70 to Topeka and 24 the rest of the places. We don;t go to KC and only Manhatten the other way..
I found that I-70 tends to have a lot fewer hills than two lane highways in Kansas. I suspect they did a lot more grading when building I-70 to get rid of a lot of the small hills. The last time I drove I-70 in a bus last fall I paid about $2.75 for the toll. I suspect I saved that much in fuel not going up and down all the hills.
The one time I took my bus into California I don't believe I bought any fuel in the state. Fuel prices in Western Nevada are just about as bad as California. We try to fuel up in the middle of Nevada to save money.
I believe it was last year when the most expensive diesel on my trip was in Minnesota! Usually Nevada is most expensive.
I read this morning that San Fransisco is expecting $10.00 a Gallon by end of the month. They get their Gas from China and only have a few refineries left in the state plus the taxws they put on fuel and claim it is to fix roads which they don;t lol
Quote from: belfert on March 25, 2026, 08:48:34 AMThe one time I took my bus into California I don't believe I bought any fuel in the state. Fuel prices in Western Nevada are just about as bad as California. We try to fuel up in the middle of Nevada to save money.
I believe it was last year when the most expensive diesel on my trip was in Minnesota! Usually Nevada is most expensive.
I generally go from Seattle to Quartzsite (last three trips through California) in the winter so I make sure to top off in Medford OR and then wait to add fuel when I get to Arizona. I have 300 gallons in bunkerage..
We're gritting our teeth hoping fuel prices drop by mid May when we start our round trip FL to AK. Besides having to call the trip off I guess we have the option to leave the bus there this next winter & fly back - maybe can save lots of $$$. Or just stay up in AK for the winter. 🥶
If oil holds at 70 to $75.00 a barrel like today it shouldn't be to bad, coming home from Scottsdale on I-40 I saw diesel bumping $6.00 today in AZ at the major truck stops it was $4.97 in Mohave Valley today
Diesel bumping 2 canuck-bux per litre here in the People's Republic of Canada (PRC). I just did the rough math and it converts to around 5-1/2 greenbacks per US gallon so not as bad as I would have expected. Mind you, it comes out of the ground right over there SE of us and we refine it a few hours down the road to the west. So there's that. Its all taxes now anyway. Exxon/Shell use WTI as an excuse to pump the price but ultimately it all goes to the PRC.
4.26 diesel here this morning up 15 cents overnight. Gas up too 3.51
Quote from: bobofthenorth on March 28, 2026, 07:34:56 AMDiesel bumping 2 canuck-bux per litre here in the People's Republic of Canada (PRC). I just did the rough math and it converts to around 5-1/2 greenbacks per US gallon so not as bad as I would have expected. Mind you, it comes out of the ground right over there SE of us and we refine it a few hours down the road to the west. So there's that. Its all taxes now anyway. Exxon/Shell use WTI as an excuse to pump the price but ultimately it all goes to the PRC.
The refined product gasoline and diesel is about 1/2 the cost at the gate, the rest goes for transportation, delivery, taxes and the mighty profits pumping fees,the pumping fees were 15 cents a gallon for years now with the price of electricity they are up to $.35 to .50 cents a gal. Az and NV are going to be hit with high prices 80% of the petroleum products came from the CA refineries. It's crazy Velro and Philips wrote of over a billion dollars just to leave CA.Az is getting their gasoline from Texas and New Mexico now through a 8 inch pipe line that won't keep up with Phoenix. A close friend owns 15 trucks and tankers his insurance rate is through the roof now and he is paying over 300k for new trucks and tankers he has to replace plus $35.00 a hour to keep drivers,he wants out of the mess his trucks and drivers can be tied up for 2 to 4 our waiting on fuel at a terminal ,because of Pilot, F/J ,Loves and others selling their excess products with delivery to independent owners
I love the insane diesel prices. Makes the sellers have to bend over a lot more if they want to unload their coaches.
Quote from: windtrader on March 30, 2026, 09:55:18 PMI love the insane diesel prices. Makes the sellers have to bend over a lot more if they want to unload their coaches.
It is a buyers market
no joke. not many crazy enough to be cruisn' around at 7+
Quote from: windtrader on March 31, 2026, 06:43:45 AMno joke. not many crazy enough to be cruisn' around at 7+
A buck a mile just for fuel and that is the cheap part of ownership, our diesel prices are about 2 dollars less than your prices ,I bought fuel for my tractor @5.09 yesterday
yeah, I used to calculate a buck a mile to run the thing, all in including service, oil, insurance. at 5.5 mpg and 7 bucks, I just can't look anymore. lol
I am glad I bought all my gas, diesel and propane before the end of 2025 for 2026. Didn't think the prices were great then but we needed some tax deductions so we went ahead and pre bought. Glad we did. Sam's club in Lincoln Nebraska was the cheapest in out area and was $3.20 for gas and $4.70 for diesel yesterday.
Went to Topeka KS yesterday and fuel was 3.69 gas and 4.75 Diesel.
Here in Wamego KS it was #3.39 gas and diesel was 4.34.
I really messed up. After fueling up at $3.50 in AZ on the way back home, then seeing $5.50 back in CA, I drove home on near fumes banking on prices not going much higher. Now I sit needing 150 gallons at $7.50 plus. Sure took the wrong side of that bet. lol
When we left home in 2008 or 07 fuel was around 2 bucks a gallon before we got home after a 4000 mile trip we were paying 5 bucks a gallon in todays world that would be over $7.00 a gal. I noticed in Strawberry AZ at a station I buy from they have the off-road fuel pumps shut down a clerk has to turn it on for the farmers and no filling tanks or drums in a pickup. My grandson in Texas told me they are not doing it there yet. Texas has a lot of stations and convenience stores in the small rural towns that sell off road fuel-the taxes. We don't have a shortage just high prices, time to buy Exxon if you have money left
Quote from: windtrader on April 04, 2026, 04:42:24 PMI really messed up. After fueling up at $3.50 in AZ on the way back home, then seeing $5.50 back in CA, I drove home on near fumes banking on prices not going much higher. Now I sit needing 150 gallons at $7.50 plus. Sure took the wrong side of that bet. lol
I make it point to never buy fuel in California or heck as little as possible here in Washington State!!! So when going to Quartzsite in the winter I fuel up just before leaving Oregon and then again when I cross the boarder in Arizona. Or when I am east bound when I get to Idaho.
Turns out that truck drivers that operate in multiple states are under much different rules, if they load up in one state and then drive in multiple states they own fuels taxes in the different states. Pay high tax in one state and then burn it in another then you are owed a credit, etc.
Interesting video that covers this subject on YouTube:
I can remember before the IFTA driving a truck over a 2 ton you pulled into the weight station leaving Texas with their cheap taxes, they would gage the tank and you paid that states tax on fuel for gasoline or diesel fuel in the tank. You had to carry a receipt proving you purchased fuel in that state if you were ever stopped it is a lot easier now since the 90's
Quote from: luvrbus on April 07, 2026, 04:09:34 PMI can remember before the IFTA driving a truck over a 2 ton you pulled into the weight station leaving Texas with their cheap taxes, they would gage the tank and you paid that states tax on fuel for gasoline or diesel fuel in the tank. You had to carry a receipt proving you purchased fuel in that state if you were ever stopped it is a lot easier now since the 90's
Up our way Iowa was like that before IFTA. If you went into there state with more than twenty gallons you paid there tax and you better buy fuel before you left the state. They loved out of state trucks. My folks hauled a lot of livestock in and out of that state in the 60's,70's and 80's.