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Title: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on September 09, 2025, 10:58:41 AM
Hey all question for you. My converted 1989 MCI 96A3 was previously insured with progressive. I recall it being quite the pain of the butt to find insurance in Massachusetts in the first place. A few months back progressive sent me a letter saying they are no longer covering any converted buses of any kind and they would no longer be providing me with the policy. Bus wasn't really slated to go anywhere so I wasn't too worried and figured I'd find something. Well it seems my only option from calling around is national general insurance. However after getting a quote and sending them pictures of the bus as requested I just heard back that they will not cover any converted transit buses only school buses. Frankly I'm a wee bit pissed off currently that we have to have insurance ( I would even if it wasn't legally managed in MA) but then somehow it's okay for nobody to provide it for vehicles that have been quite legal all along and are legally titled as RVs. Don't even get me started on how well transit buses and schoolies are built compared to a traditional RV. So do any of you have any valid options for insuring a converted MCI these days or am I as screwed as it seems????

Pic included because I just love big blue
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: freds on September 09, 2025, 05:05:40 PM
Call them back and argue that it's not a transit bus but a charter/intera-city, over the road bus, etc?

A transit bus would have another door mid chassis, etc...

Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on September 09, 2025, 05:27:39 PM
The guy was pretty adamant that they only covered converted school buses. Why that's important  ::)
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: luvrbus on September 10, 2025, 08:03:04 AM
Try State Farm they usually do it with photos, Progressive will do it if go through a agent, here in Az Progressive is asking for a commercial policy the price is not that bad for a commercial policy. Insurance Co's are getting a little gun shy on writing a full coverage policy on a bus conversion they been burnt to many times in the past with bogus claims 
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Post by: Runcutter on September 10, 2025, 08:18:41 AM
I agree with Fred.  That is not a transit bus.  It's an over-the-road coach (converted if that's true).  Entirely different creatures. 

In your area, a quick call to Jim Michaud at Michaud Bus Sales in Brentwood NH (603-629-2800) may get you input into local insurance agents/companies that can help.

Arthur
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: luvrbus on September 10, 2025, 09:06:25 AM
Commuter buses are classified as a transit bus by some insurance policy writers that MCI has the transit bumpers I can tell you they don't install transit bumpers on a bus just for looks ,because those bumpers are ugly IMO 
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: thomasinnv on September 10, 2025, 09:23:47 AM
I went through the very same problem about 6 months ago. Was with progressive for years and I got the letter. I called around and ended up going with state farm. They will provide full coverage with pictures, but no full timers insurance.
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on September 10, 2025, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on September 10, 2025, 08:03:04 AM
Try State Farm they usually do it with photos, Progressive will do it if go through a agent, here in Az Progressive is asking for a commercial policy the price is not that bad for a commercial policy. Insurance Co's are getting a little gun shy on writing a full coverage policy on a bus conversion they been burnt to many times in the past with bogus claims

I talked to state farm, no dice. My progressive policy was through an agent and even then was liability only.
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on September 10, 2025, 09:34:01 AM
Quote from: Runcutter on September 10, 2025, 08:18:41 AM
I agree with Fred.  That is not a transit bus.  It's an over-the-road coach (converted if that's true).  Entirely different creatures. 

In your area, a quick call to Jim Michaud at Michaud Bus Sales in Brentwood NH (603-629-2800) may get you input into local insurance agents/companies that can help.

Arthur

I agree totally different creatures, but underwriting says what they say and arguing anything otherwise didn't sway them. It's a fully converted, legally titled as an RV deal so I'm not sure what their problem is. Was only looking for liability as NOBODY would offer anything more than that in the lovely state of Massachusetts the last time  I was searching.
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: thomasinnv on September 11, 2025, 06:30:13 AM
Quote from: scooter01922 on September 10, 2025, 09:30:13 AM
I talked to state farm, no dice. My progressive policy was through an agent and even then was liability only.

You might try another State Farm agent. The first agent I talked to said no they don't do bus conversions, but another agent in the same office got it done. I think she had to use a different computer system or something. National General will do it but they were about the same price for liability as what I ended up paying for full coverage. National General is owned by allstate.
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: David Anderson on September 11, 2025, 04:45:42 PM
I went through the same stuff 6 months ago. I got full coverage through progressive through FMCA membership. (Now Family RV Association).

They may not renew at the one year anniversary next year. Oh boy 👦

David
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on November 19, 2025, 07:11:04 AM
Have talked to progressive though several agents and direct. "Converted busses of any kind present too much additional risk to insure" Amica tells me the same, unless I can prove it was converted by a company specifically doing bus conversions. I don't know how this hasn't become a real issue if companies will only cover professional conversions.
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Post by: luvrbus on November 19, 2025, 10:04:55 AM
Laws are different from state to when Van moved from Neveda here to AZ he had been with Progressive for years ,they would not insure his Prevost here,my State Farm agent had no problem it was $200.00 less with more coverage Van loved the $19.00 a year towing price he dropped his Coachnet lol next he went for the AZ plates for $55.00 for 5 years he didn't believe me on the price on that one     
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: David Anderson on November 19, 2025, 10:22:03 AM
This is an old thread.
So Scooter, what did you finally do about insurance?
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: scooter01922 on November 19, 2025, 12:27:33 PM
Per my post from earlier today its been a very frustrating road. Calling places on and off for the last several months has yielded NO good results. Good thing I don't have any trips planned. Did just get a quote this afternoon, a place that WILL cover it, but liability only and then only if they cover all my other vehicles. North of 1000$ for the bus and waaay too much for the other things. Highway robbery I tell ya.......
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: David Anderson on November 19, 2025, 03:14:45 PM
I gues I'm in for the same treatment next April when mine is due.  🥺

David
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: luvrbus on November 19, 2025, 04:22:14 PM
There is always going to be some type battle with DYI conversion you have the 10 year rule at campgrounds and some require a photo of the RVIA sticker with a number to make  reservations, you won't get into Sams Town KOA in Vegas without the RVIA sticker or plaque it never ends, A good friend has a very nice MCI A converted he gets denied by campgrounds because he and wife kept all the bus windows for light, he has tossed in towel and selling his bus it is listed on this board for sale now   
Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: David Anderson on January 28, 2026, 06:39:19 PM
Quote from: David Anderson on September 11, 2025, 04:45:42 PM
I went through the same stuff 6 months ago. I got full coverage through progressive through FMCA membership. (Now Family RV Association).


They may not renew at the one year anniversary next year. Oh boy 👦

I got a letter today from Progressive saying that my renewal is ready for 2026. Premium is same as last year. Boy I am glad to get this notice. I've been concerned.
David

Title: Re: Insurance woes anybody have any suggestions???
Post by: Glennman on January 28, 2026, 07:33:34 PM
I have Safeco and so far, haven't had any problems.