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Title: Battery impact wrench
Post by: chessie4905 on September 02, 2023, 06:05:14 AM
I see that Milwaukee has a super duty battery impact wrench with up to 2000lbs of torque for big bucks now. Guess Harbor Freight will have to step up AGAIN. Lol
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Dave5Cs on September 02, 2023, 11:40:57 AM
Milwaukee tools are currently manufactured in China, Germany, Mexico, the United States and Vietnam. In 2005 the company became a wholly owned subsidiary of Hong Kong based Techtronic Industries.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 02, 2023, 02:04:11 PM
LOL everyone needs a 2000 ft lb of torque impact wrench to break the wheels or studs ,it would have to be a 1" drive
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: dtcerrato on September 02, 2023, 05:44:36 PM
I agree, wtf?
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Nova Eona on September 02, 2023, 07:59:08 PM
I'm not sure I want 2,000 lb in force that easily held in hand, at least with a pneumatic that big hose dragging around reminds you to brace your wrist before squeezin that trigger.  My little Ryobi impact driver has served me very well, but even that's given me a few surprise kicks on occasion.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 02, 2023, 11:11:49 PM
I finally decided to invest in the Milwaukee 2767-20 M18 FUEL 1/2" Impact Wrench a couple of months ago. I borrowed one from a friend once, and it took my lug nuts off very easily.

I have a tourque multiplier that worked good on my MC-9, but it would not work on my Eagle because of the chrome tire covers I have on the rear.  I will sell it cheap if anyone is interested. But it takes some strength to hold it up and turn the handle at the same time, strength that I have less of each year.

Also, as I get older, I do not have the strength and do not want to carry a 6' cheater bar with me like we had on the farm for these big jobs on heavy equipment.

The only caveat about this tool is, you may want to ensure you charge the battery every month or so because it it is not fully charged, it may or may not loosen your nuts.

This is an expensive tool, and be sure you buy the battery that goes with it as well as a battery charger as some do not come as a package deal.  I also saw these being sold earlier as refurbished units, and those I am sure would work well too, for those of us who not plan to use them in their daily activity.

I also bought the carrying bag for it, as of course, they no longer come with the tool, unless maybe, you buy it as a kit.

I have always had good luck with Milwaukee tools.

I will guarantee you one thing, this is much easier to move around than Cliffs big  3/4" impact wrench and a large diameter air hose, and the air compressor I carrry in my bus, is not large enuf to run the big gun.  However, I have seen 1/2 air impact wrenches that will remove my lug nuts, but you have to buy the more expensive ones such as an Ingersol Rand, as the Harbor Freight models, just don't have the torque required.

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Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: chessie4905 on September 04, 2023, 07:27:56 AM
I bought a Hercules 1/2 ultra. Up to 1400 lb ft. It spins lug nuts off fine. No doubt the Milwaukee are great, but battery price is a killer.
If my ultra won't  loosen one, I have an IR 1" @175 psi that'll  loosen them or flip the coach over.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 04, 2023, 07:37:58 AM
Quote from: chessie4905 on September 04, 2023, 07:27:56 AM
I bought a Hercules 1/2 ultra. Up to 1400 lb ft. It spins lug nuts off fine. No doubt the Milwaukee are great, but battery price is a killer.
If my ultra won't  loosen one, I have an IR 1" @175 psi that'll  loosen them or flip the coach over.

LVMCI and Van bought me the Hercules 1/2 drive for my birthday seems to do a good job but it is a heavy sucker, I have a 3/8th drive cordless rachet (non HF). I love and use it all the time   
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: dtcerrato on September 04, 2023, 08:29:34 AM
We've been using forever a 3/4" drive Sears Craftsman aka Chicago Pneumatic impact and still carry hand tools & a 6' cheater because we are all about redundancy.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: sledhead on September 04, 2023, 09:47:11 AM
I have the 3/4" milwaukee impact wrench and if I use the 12 amp battery that came with the chain saw it will take just about anything off . but ya it is heavy

I gave away all my big air impact guns
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 04, 2023, 10:27:06 AM
My 3/4 air impact gun weighs the same as the 1/2 drive Milwaukee cordless, but the air cost me more than the cordless,I have a older  1/2 drive Milwaukee cordless in Scottsdale I was never impressed with it.I have  air impact and rachets from the 60's still working, I wonder if you will see the cordless around in 60 years. lol I walk around the 1in drive I/R it is seldom is used anymore
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: dtcerrato on September 04, 2023, 10:41:56 AM
We also have a Dewalt and a Milwaukee 1/2" drive electric (120V) that are handy. We carry one in the bus and there's one in the bus barn.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: chessie4905 on September 04, 2023, 02:30:54 PM
I rarely use that 1" IR gun. BUT, if I come across something that won't budge, Ill drag it out. Last I used it was dismanthing the rear section of a 4905. Pita dragging out all the 1/2" hose to outside of shop, but couple burps and off it came. Didnt have the HF ultra yet. Would have been a good test. Like that it has a 5 year warranty instead of the common 90 day.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: windtrader on September 04, 2023, 02:51:15 PM
what the hell is wrong with a 6 ft bar? No batteries, lifetime guarantee and built in torque wrench to boot? Get on a scale, do simple math, measure and tape to ft lbs you want, and presto, set forever, that is until you eat too many cheeseburgers. lol
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: chessie4905 on September 04, 2023, 02:58:34 PM
Nope, btdt. Impact and torque wrench.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: windtrader on September 04, 2023, 07:09:55 PM
ok, what's so hard about standing on a bar?
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 04, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
Quote from: windtrader on September 04, 2023, 02:51:15 PM
what the hell is wrong with a 6 ft bar? No batteries, lifetime guarantee and built in torque wrench to boot? Get on a scale, do simple math, measure and tape to ft lbs you want, and presto, set forever, that is until you eat too many cheeseburgers. lol

A cheater bar and jacks worked great back when I was growning on the farm when we were poor and that is all we could afford.  I used it for a lot of things when I was younger and stronger.  I like the finer things in life such as a nice bottle of wine and Battery Powered Torque Wrench now that I am also a bit wiser.

That is how we did everything on this dozer and the tractors.  This was me plowing snow when I was about 18 years old and she broke down now and then and it took larger than normal tools to work on this rig.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 05, 2023, 04:08:41 AM
Quote from: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 04, 2023, 07:15:45 PM
A cheater bar and jacks worked great back when I was growning on the farm when we were poor and that is all we could afford.  I used it for a lot of things when I was younger and stronger.  I like the finer things in life such as a nice bottle of wine and Battery Powered Torque Wrench now that I am also a bit wiser.

That is how we did everything on this dozer and the tractors.  This was me plowing snow when I was about 18 years old and she broke down now and then and it took larger than normal tools to work on this rig.

Damn Gary you are getting old operating a TD9 Internatinal Dozer with the Bucyrus blade.Those gave you a workout with the manual steering levers and foot brakes, first dozer I ever ran.,My dad would have been on me like white on rice with the dirt packed tracks.Memories you started those on gasoline then flipped up the compression lever to run on diesel and yea you used a lot of tools to keep it going it took a 24 inch pipe wrench a 5 ft bar to adjust the tracks   
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: chessie4905 on September 05, 2023, 06:49:41 AM
When you achieve geezer status, not a good idea to stand on a springy pipe anymore.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 05, 2023, 09:28:58 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on September 05, 2023, 04:08:41 AM


Damn Gary you are getting old operating a TD9 Internatinal Dozer with the Bucyrus blade.Those gave you a workout with the manual steering levers and foot brakes, first dozer I ever ran.,My dad would have been on me like white on rice with the dirt packed tracks.Memories you started those on gasoline then flipped up the compression lever to run on diesel and yea you used a lot of tools to keep it going it took a 24 inch pipe wrench a 5 ft bar to adjust the tracks

She didn't seem that difficult to operate when I was younger and stronger, but I never operated more than a couple hours at a time.  The Case 1150B with two small levers was much easier a few years ago.

My dad got this dozer free from my uncle when he bought a replacement that had less hours on it. It had a broken crankshaft and he was able find a replacement and we installed it and it ran fine after that.  The only problem was the tracks were so worn out that it would throw tracks now and then and it is no fun putting a track back on in the middle of the woods.

When we started this dozer, the battery would barely turn it over, but after a few turns, it would fire and run on gas. Then after it got warmed up a bit after a few minutes, we would switch it over to diesel and i loved that sound.  It had a straight stack on it, and it blew smoke rings everytime it started cold.
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Jim Blackwood on September 05, 2023, 10:40:19 AM
We had a D4 Cat. OK for small jobs but a tilt blade would have been a big help.

Jim
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 05, 2023, 10:48:38 AM
Quote from: Jim Blackwood on September 05, 2023, 10:40:19 AM
We had a D4 Cat. OK for small jobs but a tilt blade would have been a big help.

Jim

Those old dozers had a tilt but it was done by hand you even had to do the angle by hand if it had a angle blade it wasn.t much fun back then
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: dtcerrato on September 05, 2023, 07:43:21 PM
Heck I see lots of state of the art big equipment like dozers, graders, scrapers, yada equipped with multiple laser receivers that takes the fun from the operator on establishing grade, etc. Tech marches on...
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: luvrbus on September 05, 2023, 07:52:43 PM
Quote from: dtcerrato on September 05, 2023, 07:43:21 PM
Heck I see lots of state of the art big equipment like dozers, graders, scrapers, yada equipped with multiple laser receivers that takes the fun from the operator on establishing grade, etc. Tech marches on...

They have GPS and self steering now too, I had the lasers for fine grading since operators couldn't blue top anymore like the old guys
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM on September 05, 2023, 08:01:27 PM
Quote from: dtcerrato on September 05, 2023, 07:43:21 PM
Heck I see lots of state of the art big equipment like dozers, graders, scrapers, yada equipped with multiple laser receivers that takes the fun from the operator on establishing grade, etc. Tech marches on...

Yes and soon, the heavy equipment will just be given the paramaters of the ground to level and someone will fuel them up and turn them on, and come back at the end of the day to pick them up and move them to the next job site.   

Much of the equipment is going all electric now, (weight of batteries is not an issue with a dozer) so eventually they will just back into their charging stations after a long days work and be charged over night while another dozer takes over and runs all night, until morning when they will swap out.

Cliff has a piece of equipment in his back yard with a battery on it that probably weighs a ton.  Cliff is ahead of his time.

The drawback of course is the diesel smoke works great to help keep the mosquitoes away when I was running heavy equipment in the North East in the early summa and it works great for starting brush piles to burn after cleaing a lot.

Progress.  ;D
Title: Re: Battery impact wrench
Post by: OneLapper on October 18, 2023, 01:42:09 PM
I own that Milwaukee 1" extended anvil impact gun and it's the real deal.

I've used it for on the road repairs and it's never disappointed me.  I use it in the shop because I don't need to deal with the 1/2" air line being dragged around the shop floor.

One nice feature is that it has a setting that estimates lug nut torque to 350-450ftlb.  It varies because of stud/nut conditions, but it get's it close.

I used a Harbor Freight 3/4" torque digital display to set the final torque (with old fashion breaker bar and pipe).