Is gasoline increasing in price in your area,here it jumped $.20 a gal overnight more than that Sam's it jump to $3.55 a gal while we were shoppng
Cottonwood is going has gone up a total 40 cents in 3 days. The other day while waiting at the red-light Speedway went up 10 cents, then the next day up another 5 cents. crazy hold on it will get worse. Seems like diesel is staying at $4.65 for light class.
Quote from: luvrbus on April 12, 2023, 02:10:45 PM
Is gasoline increasing in price in your area,here it jumped $.20 a gal overnight more than that Sam's it jump to $3.55 a gal while we were shoppng
Fueled up the Jeep at Sam's Club in the Villages this morning for 3.43/gal for premium. Regular gas was 3.19. Diesel was @ 3.73/gal.
Quote from: dtcerrato on April 12, 2023, 03:58:23 PM
Fueled up the Jeep at Sam's Club in the Villages this morning for 3.43/gal for premium. Regular gas was 3.19. Diesel was @ 3.73/gal.
That about the same price we were paying diesel is up to $3.99 today,some places diesel is $4.45 .WTI for a barrel of oil closed today @ $83.10 a barrel up from $68.40 a barrel a few weeks ago so fuel is going to go up on the next tanker load.The tanker was unloading @ Sam's when I saw the price change inside the store,Sam's is good at not raising prices on existing fuel in their tanks
Yep Read that the Saudi's and OPEC slowed down production which made oil go from 60 a barrel to 80 a barrel. Plus all the biggies are slowing production for yearly maintenance.
We get screwed again so they can all make more money.
Epa is changing requirements to ensure much stricter emission numbers to help force change over to electric vehicles quicker. I wonder if fuel going up now and forward is part of the concerted effort to go electric. All auto mfgrs have billions at stake and face great financial risk if change would fall flat.
Quote from: chessie4905 on April 13, 2023, 04:14:08 AM
Epa is changing requirements to ensure much stricter emission numbers to help force change over to electric vehicles quicker. I wonder if fuel going up now and forward is part of the concerted effort to go electric. All auto mfgrs have billions at stake and face great financial risk if change would fall flat.
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Oil will probably close today @83.00 for May delivery, making for shorter trips for many.I notice RV and buses are dropping in prices lol and power bills going up .If and when the DOE and Biden replace the 221 million barrels they sold from SPR it will be a rough ride for a few months,the way Biden is with big oil he won't get a deal so the tax payer foot the bill
Of they will say that it's your fault because you hate electric cars, trucks and buses. Playing devil's advocate but it sounds great on paper but it's not practical in real life.
Quote from: luvrbus on April 13, 2023, 06:04:55 AMIf and when the DOE and Biden replace the 221 million barrels they sold from SPR it will be a rough ride for a few months,the way Biden is with big oil he won't get a deal so the tax payer foot the bill
I'd say there's zero chance your SPR gets refilled in the next 18 months. I hope I'm wrong because my Cdn oils will love the price but the world is short oil and nobody is bringing new production online. OPEC is back in the driver's seat. North American production displaced the Arabs for the last 15 years but those days are going away fast. The green crowd should love $120+ oil because it makes the fairy farts and windmills more competitive.
Quote from: bobofthenorth on April 13, 2023, 08:26:04 AM
I'd say there's zero chance your SPR gets refilled in the next 18 months. I hope I'm wrong because my Cdn oils will love the price but the world is short oil and nobody is bringing new production online. OPEC is back in the driver's seat. North American production displaced the Arabs for the last 15 years but those days are going away fast. The green crowd should love $120+ oil because it makes the fairy farts and windmills more competitive.
I don't know were we get or depts heads from, our Secretary of Energy (Granholm) she was a professor teaching politics at Berkley in CA and now running the DOE it's crazy
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again fuel prices are gonna keep going up for the next 18 months (just like they always do!) and then right after inauguration they'll drop so whoever wins can say "Look here see what I did already! Happens every 4 yrs and has been since I was old enough to pay attention to what my grandpa was bitching about (only he always blamed the republicans! I am jest smart enough to realize it don't matter repblican or dumbacrat it happens!
;D BK ;D
A couple of refinery shutdowns for maintenance should be added to mix this summer for good measure.
https://www.energy.gov/person/jennifer-m-granholm
There nothing in our daily lives that petroleum doesn't have some roots so it is going away easy ?
Diesel hasn't moved much around here. Sam's $3.78 other places $3.99 but gas at Sam's went from $2.98 to $3.39 in a couple days. Most other places gas is $3.49 now.
surprising how cheap diesel is here in CA. running around $4.50 in NorCal. I'm fueling up next week, surely prices will spike up. lol
"Creating millions of good paying union jobs"
Whats wrong with union jobs?
Quote from: Dave5Cs on April 14, 2023, 10:09:52 AM
Whats wrong with union jobs?
I enjoy my union carpenter's pensions. Pays the groceries, still!
Me too Brother Dan. 1147 Roseville :^
I get a little from Operating Engineers 450 in Houston and 798 out of Tulsa,but it does piss a lot people off Biden giving 35 billion to shore up union pension funds and shafting Social Security I hear that argument all the time.
We get small pensions from LA Socal & 270 Jacksonville FL
Quote from: dtcerrato on April 14, 2023, 05:44:25 PM
We get small pensions from LA Socal & 270 Jacksonville FL
The Union and the right to work people in Texas got along good some times a Union rep would try and start something but it always went away.I would tell him take it up with state.I never could keep from laughing when one would tell me get them off the job or we going to "wobble" where did they come up with the word wobble for walk off the job all I could think of was a duck waddle
Quote from: luvrbus on April 14, 2023, 05:58:27 PM
The Union and the right to work people in Texas got along good some times a Union rep would try and start something but it always went away.I would tell him take it up with state.I never could keep from laughing when one would tell me get them off the job or we going to "wobble" where did they come up with the word wobble for walk off the job all I could think of was a duck waddle
LOL, never heard the term waddle! I guess it means to walk (off) I remember working inside the DC Beltway. Non union contractors competed with the unions by putting lots of the fringe benefits on the man's paycheck! It almost won me over but I stayed where I was at.
Quote from: luvrbus on April 14, 2023, 05:58:27 PM
......them off the job or we going to "wobble" where did they come up with the word wobble for walk off the job all I could think of was a duck waddle
I thought that "wobble" was strictly a Prince Albert Pulp Mill word. When the union wanted to hold a job action without actually voting for a strike they would all sit on their lunch buckets and "wobble". Not many unions in Saskatchewan outside the Federal and Provincial governments but P.A. Pulp was owned by Weyerhauser and unionized.
I only ever was forced to belong to a union once. I worked on the University farm while I was going to school and they were unionized so I had to belong. All they ever did for me was delay my pay. In the fall when I came back I'd start work and then after a pay period went by with no cheque I'd stop at the union office. They'd take my card out of one file box and move it to another one and then my cheques would go through.
Well back in the 70's I remember contractors putting four 4x4's in the ground and attaching two signs at 7 feet. One sign said Non union workers and the other said Union workers only.
The BA's sat in their trucks across the street with a camera and took pictures of those going in and out of the so called gates. They fought that for years but never got it stopped and then most of the home construction went to non union but you had to go get your contractors license and be an independent.
I worked on a lot of projects that were government funded where the Davis/Bacon Act set the wages union or not .
Bob Evans if I heard the word "wobble " from a union steward once I heard it a 1000 times in 20 years
I guess my business is different than most of yours. Everything you ever heard about TV and Feature film producers are true for some producers. Some are great, but alot could care less about their crews. That's why unions and cameramen societies are so important in entertainment. 15, 18 even 20 hour days, no food, even no water available, when you show up for work and surprise! We're going out into the desert to shoot. Pay you have to sue for, dangerous conditions like being on a bucket 25 ft up and a storm comes by and they won't let you down (cameras have 240 volts to run them). Alot of jobs have unknown dangers, most people don't think unions do much, TV unions are necessary to protect us...
With all the Government and state regulations now to protect the worker the Union roll has diminished in most trades for that part, now it is all about wages and benefits,When OK voted in the right to work law, with so many huge contractors like FlintCo and Manhattan located in Tulsa after the vote the unions died there
I'm on my 50 year pin now. Retired since 2013. Haven't worked union since 1990 - been in managerial since then. Union book is still active. Only pay retirement dues @ $6/month. I don't work, full retirement but could if I want. Nice to have the option. Only consider large new projects, power plants, refineries, petro chemical, nuclear but retirement is good.
Nothing, but didn't need that term in mission statement. What about non union jobs? Millions of jobs that aren't union and never will be. No need to pander to the administrations fan base. Last I checked, government works for ALL.
Have worked both union and right to work as well as Davis-Bacon. DB paid the most but made you donate (My word) to their life insurance policy by the hour which went into the contractors pocket. So they paid you say 35 an hour but put 8.00 an hour into your life insurance policy which you never saw again.
Right to work paid way less no matter what you did with no benefits at all.
Union paid a good wage plus benefits which now have been cut down a lot in recent years.
Democrats always seem to be Union because of Government support
Right to work seem to be Republican
And of course Davis Bacon is just any government project and who ever is in control at the time.
Both sides use the workers and companies for their little projects and pocket filling.
The Right to Work means a person can work in a Union shop or on a Union job without belonging to a union, it does not mean you can pay that person less on that job or shop.I had both union and non union operators on a airport job, the $1.47 per hour for benefits to the union operators fund I paid the $1.47 per hour directly to non-union operators. Some times non union companies have better retirement and benefits,I know several truck drivers that started and retired from WM that walked away with 2 million bucks ea,I know another driver that drove for McDonalds that retired with a boat load too,John makes a good point.Most of the government funded jobs now are prevailing wage they average out the Union wages in that area is what you pay per hour and that payroll is certified every week and they do come check the employees wages in the field .LOL Sonja certified 100's of those if anyone was going to jail it was going to be her not me.She was good at it though they never came for her
Don't know where you worked Clifford and not arguing just have worked all the above in California and Colorado and Colorado was the worse for right to work they paid 15.00 tops for Carpenters with no benefits at all nothing added and basically the Prevailing wage was as you said except wages were 35 to 45 per hour and then they added travel but took 8.00 an hour for they said life insurance and if I didn't sign it they said there is the door.
Union in California in the 70 to 80's was 25 an hour plus 18.00 in benefits but in those days they paid full eye, dental and medical. Not that way now.
Quote from: chessie4905 on April 16, 2023, 11:27:19 AM
No need to pander to the administrations fan base. Last I checked, government works for ALL.
Yep it is suppose to but now they all just fight for rights to our money and that is the last 12 years or more. Both sides. IMO
Dave when I was sub contractor in 1984 at Jefferson County Dentation Center in Golden CO I paid lot more than $15.00 a hour for carpenters lol if that what you could call them,setting forms for concrete and they could screw those up,That was the worse place to find craftsman I ever been to work.Lol the County had a work program we had to use and some were delivered and picked up in a Blue Bird Bus with guards and bars on the windows
Clifford When I signed up we had just left California and sold our house and didn't know what the wages were there but found out every place we went in Colorado Springs was 15.00 and no nothing else,LOL so I keep my Contractors license back home just in case we had to move back. I figured they would raise the wage after they saw what I could do. They had me running three crews of Concrete siding guy on 3000 sq/ft homes with 3 story walk-outs on ladders. We were finishing a house in 3 days with 8 guys 12 x 16 ft concrete siding, soffits and all cedar trim. Me and two others did all the cutting and 2 labors stacking sawhorses with boards.
The Boss after two weeks told me he had never seen it done so fast and clean. I said great so a raise would be in order. He said oh no but I will give you some more guys from the city Jail to make another crew and you can pick them up each morning and take them back at night. I will pay your gas for that. Now I was using my own compressors but his nailing guns.
So I said great and walked over to my truck with my compressors and loaded them up. Told the crews that when they were done to pile his tools up so he could come get them. He said what are you doing. I told him as two business men talking I gave you your chance to make a deal and make some good money but you said no to my offer.
I am out of here but you will be seeing me soon. I went and got my contractors License there and then worked on taking some of the work he had and when the builder saw what I could do at a lower price they would start giving me more work plus all the decks and stairs. I worked and lived there for 10 years and the wife ran United moving and storage there and was the weigh master too. We finally moved back to Sacramento and I picked up where I left off.
Your right though some of the worst carpenters there that I ever ran into. They would do things like miss the studs when they shot the siding on and I would go inside and knock the nails back out so they could re shoot it and they would ask why? They would cut square holes around round pipes and want to fill it with caulking. I told them doesn't take any more time to cut a round hole do it right and they would get all up set.
Crazy round here diesel dropped over 20 cents a gal yesterday and gasoline prices increased 10 to 15 cents a gal WTH ,we haven't seen $3.61 gasoline here in a long time
Course it's going up. Start of spring and travelling/ camping season. Nothing new. Just a little higher jump in prices.
Quote from: chessie4905 on April 29, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Course it's going up. Start of spring and travelling/ camping season. Nothing new. Just a little higher jump in prices.
John, what I read is with the shortage of diesel fuel in 2022 and 2023 the refineries refined more diesel than gasoline and now we have a good supply of diesel and less gasoline, you are right we will get a bump in prices this summer. The price of corn is $ 7.16 a bushel and Soybeans @ 12.12 a bushel you are going to pay more for gasoline inflation is killing the farmer too
The price of corn is $ 7.16 a bushel! Sheet thar goes the price of good ol' mountain spring water!
Ned stock up now!
;D BK ;D
BK very few people use corn any more. It is basically sugar head any more. with flavoring.
uncle ned
It's getting bad, just drove by this one today.
Quote from: windtrader on September 23, 2023, 06:23:32 PM
It's getting bad, just drove by this one today.
It is almost $7.00 in Needles CA diesel is over $7.00 I see the Uhaul renters that are moving shaking their heads .to bad they know when you cross the river that in 3 miles diesel is $4.67
Food for thought. Raising wages is not the answer for inflation pretty soon minimum wage will be $50.00 per hour and a loaf of bread will be $25.00 and so on creating a vicious cycle jacking consumer prices up even more. Everything is already way out of hand in my opinion.
Quote from: tr206 on September 24, 2023, 06:49:41 AM
Food for thought. Raising wages is not the answer for inflation pretty soon minimum wage will be $50.00 per hour and a loaf of bread will be $25.00 and so on creating a vicious cycle jacking consumer prices up even more. Everything is already way out of hand in my opinion.
It is out of wach $70.00 will buy you 4 small plastic sacks of food without any meat products a buy on oranges are $1.00 each .My daughter got my Envoy hot the GMC dealer wanted over $4,000.00 to replace the head gasket, was cheaper for me to buy a engine and have it installed