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I see that MCI 6 every time we go to Rim Rock going through Prescott,there is a guy not far from the bus that has a 8v71 mounted on pole about 15 ft tall
Stopped by the feed store that has the MCI6 on the lot, lady selling it was the store Mgr. Two drive tires are from 2018, two steers are 2016. Couldn't get inside, 8V71, looked like two turbos, bad leak on a tag axle...
Couple of rebuild tags.
Enough room in engine compartment, even to put in a series 60, maybe with Jake brakes...
The owner is Wendy Russel 9289109071, parked at Warren's feed store chino Valley, AZ
Wendy was manager there...
Newest tires
Tom that leaky tag wheel is probably the easiest thing to fix on it!
It's coming from the sight glass on the hub cover. New hub cover, an oil, 15 minutes done!
:D BK :D
And BK it's the small wheel and tire. But can you imagine a 550 or 600 horsepower series 60 or other 4 stroke in there? I don't remember how many horsepower a 12V71 had...
Quote from: lvmci on May 02, 2023, 05:52:40 PM
And BK it's the small wheel and tire. But can you imagine a 550 or 600 horsepower series 60 or other 4 stroke in there? I don't remember how many horsepower a 12V71 had...
Tom,the 12v71N/A was 475 hp
12v71T 525 hp
12v71T/A 600 hp and a blast to drive,we had one in Pete when I was working for the gas company,loved the sound of the Pete with dual stacks too,fuel was cheap then now you couldn't afford to drive one
Quote from: lvmci on May 02, 2023, 05:52:40 PM
And BK it's the small wheel and tire. But can you imagine a 550 or 600 horsepower series 60 or other 4 stroke in there? I don't remember how many horsepower a 12V71 had...
Tom -I worked for Allstate Charter Lines back in the days when they had the "Pink Panther" in their fleet. It was one of the original MC-6s with the 12V71/4-spd manual powertrains, a Canadian Greyhound car. John Mancebo, the owner of Allstate, put a ton on money into the coach, not only on the exterior, but also the fully-seated interior, courtesy of Bill Kingston.
I don't know what the HP rating of the 12V was, but I do know that Delaney & Ahlf in Bakersfield did all of John's engine work, and there weren't many other charter companies around that could keep up with an Allstate climbing the Grapevine or Baker Grade on I-15 heading to Vegas. I suspect that if John was still with us, he would have stuffed a 500+ hp Series 60 in the Panther the first chance he got. . .
I got to drive it a couple of times, but just on local charters, as the Panther was John's "baby" and rarely did any other drivers get a chance to take it on a trip. Expensive coach that sat in the barn a lot, actually.
Here's a photo of the bus:
In it's glory days the 12v71 was king of the road every bull hauler and heavy hauler had the 12v71 with a 5 speed transmission and a 4 speed auxiliary Brown Lipe for 20 gears .I saw 2 MCI=7's combo rigs that had the 12v71 from the factory people said never happen the 7 's have a huge engine compartment for some reason though
Clifford do you think the 7s were built off the 6s chassis, jut no split radiators?...
The mindset in the late 60's was clear, buses were to be made to move, the same performance mania between builders that existed in the car side of things.
1973 and the oil embargo brought that performance on cheap fuel to a stop.
We can only imagine where things might have gone, buzzin' dozens roaring around all over the place, if the oil had stayed cheap...
happy coaching!
buswarrior
In the 60's and early 70's we had a lot of flat bed guys with side kits hauling watermelons out of Texas and OK up threw my home town and would stop at my folks truck stop for fuel. Lots of long nose 9500 GMC's with 12V71 ones in them. They hauled pipe out of Tyler pipe back to OK and Texas. Also had the bull hauler's coming threw with the 12V71's and then the KTA Cummins and 3408 Cats. We had a Freightliner cabover we pulled a fuel tanker with that had a KTA Cummins with a 5 and 4 air shift. Back in the day that was a nice truck to drive.
Quote from: rancher on May 05, 2023, 03:11:31 PM
In the 60's and early 70's we had a lot of flat bed guys with side kits hauling watermelons out of Texas and OK up threw my home town and would stop at my folks truck stop for fuel. Lots of long nose 9500 GMC's with 12V71 ones in them. They hauled pipe out of Tyler pipe back to OK and Texas. Also had the bull hauler's coming threw with the 12V71's and then the KTA Cummins and 3408 Cats. We had a Freightliner cabover we pulled a fuel tanker with that had a KTA Cummins with a 5 and 4 air shift. Back in the day that was a nice truck to drive.
You had Allis Chambers in the mix with Big Al and the 4x4 transmission they were popular with the owner operators for a few years till Allis dropped the line,Cat slowly took over the trucking business for engines
Quote from: luvrbus on May 05, 2023, 03:28:42 PM
You had Allis Chambers in the mix with Big Al and the 4x4 transmission they were popular with the owner operators for a few years till Allis dropped the line,Cat slowly took over the trucking business for engines
I had forgot about the big Allis engines in trucks. There were a couple Gleaner combine dealers trucks that would stop at my folks truck stops that had Allis engines in some cabover Kenworth trucks.