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Title: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 05:02:09 AM
Those wanting a catch can, Amazon has the Espeeder aluminum catch can with the breather for less than 30 bucks since I don't do links just type in Espeerder on Amason you cannot make it for 30 bucks I ordered 1 for Tom and Van,I didn't order the mounting brackets I can build those for less than $17 bucks.The Vincos is a better buy @ 20 bucks buy but does not have a breather     
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: buswarrior on January 02, 2023, 05:28:25 AM
These ones?

https://www.amazon.com/ESPEEDER-Universal-Aluminum-Oil-Reservoir/dp/B07FMRPSQK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3IYMJ1A63Q3KS&keywords=espeeder&qid=1672665919&sprefix=espeeder%2Caps%2C301&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/ESPEEDER-Universal-Baffled-Reservoir-Aluminum/dp/B09B1QHDP4/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3IYMJ1A63Q3KS&keywords=espeeder&qid=1672666036&sprefix=espeeder%2Caps%2C301&sr=8-4


happy coaching!
buswarrior
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 05:44:02 AM
Quote from: buswarrior on January 02, 2023, 05:28:25 AM
These ones?

https://www.amazon.com/ESPEEDER-Universal-Aluminum-Oil-Reservoir/dp/B07FMRPSQK/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3IYMJ1A63Q3KS&keywords=espeeder&qid=1672665919&sprefix=espeeder%2Caps%2C301&sr=8-2

https://www.amazon.com/ESPEEDER-Universal-Baffled-Reservoir-Aluminum/dp/B09B1QHDP4/ref=sr_1_4?crid=3IYMJ1A63Q3KS&keywords=espeeder&qid=1672666036&sprefix=espeeder%2Caps%2C301&sr=8-4


happy coaching!
buswarrior

Thanks BW ,Amazon has a big assortment to choose from at good prices,but on the 2 strokes you do not want one without the breather since the air box drains are under pressure   
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: chessie4905 on January 02, 2023, 06:16:03 AM
Every color but Alpine green.lol
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 07:35:03 AM
Quote from: chessie4905 on January 02, 2023, 06:16:03 AM
Every color but Alpine green.lol

That is a ugly color anyways the Alpine green,I liked the black better DD used for truck engines
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 07:51:01 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 07:35:03 AM


That is a ugly color anyways the Alpine green,I liked the black better DD used for truck engines

Yeah but we all know the only green associated with a two stroke would be it's color and it keeps me from being a liar when I tell people admiring the bus that I have a green engine! Lol
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: Nova Eona on January 02, 2023, 07:54:16 AM
Couldn't you use the breather-less one if you just leave the 'Out' port open to atmosphere?  That'd do the job of catching the drips I'd think.
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 08:02:42 AM
Quote from: Nova Eona on January 02, 2023, 07:54:16 AM
Couldn't you use the breather-less one if you just leave the 'Out' port open to atmosphere?  That'd do the job of catching the drips I'd think.

It works but it makes for a big mess in time BTDT. We had a catch can for 5 years on it and finally did away with it as it never really caught oil to pool just kind of blew it through to make a bigger mess.
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 08:40:16 AM
Quote from: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 07:51:01 AM
Yeah but we all know the only green associated with a two stroke would be it's color and it keeps me from being a liar when I tell people admiring the bus that I have a green engine! Lol

The aluminum 6-71's were painted blue and was a ugly blue, and you know the Gray Marine were painted gray, Stewart and Stevenson sent their special built 6L-71's painted red it was a nice shade of red,when it was a red S/S 6L71 you knew to take a 3-rotor blower with you   
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: ol713 on January 02, 2023, 12:57:19 PM


   It seems to be a good idea  - - - -  I just ordered one.   I have noticed a lot of oil leaking from the drain lately.
                                                           thanks,   Merle    :)
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 08:02:42 AM
It works but it makes for a big mess in time BTDT. We had a catch can for 5 years on it and finally did away with it as it never really caught oil to pool just kind of blew it through to make a bigger mess.

:^Dan you supposed to drain the catch cans,adding steel wool to one stops the blow through.I picked the one out because it has a dip stick and breather, I will add the steel wool if needed 
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: dtcerrato on January 02, 2023, 02:40:15 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 01:48:39 PM


:^Dan you supposed to drain the catch cans,adding steel wool to one stops the blow through.I picked the one out because it has a dip stick and breather, I will add the steel wool if needed

The oil never accumulated, I think it was blowing it right through. I guess I should have tried steel wool.
I kinda reminds me of a Racor I ran for a lot of years. Never saw a stitch of water in the bowl so eventually I removed it.
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: RJ on January 03, 2023, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on January 02, 2023, 05:44:02 AM
. . . On the 2 strokes you do not want one without the breather since the air box drains are under pressure.
Clilfford -

Looking at the dimensions of these catch cans, it seems that one would be perfect for the inline 71s, but two would probably work better for the V models, either 71s or 92s, installing one for each bank. Your thoughts?

RJ
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: chessie4905 on January 03, 2023, 05:02:19 AM
the plumbing would be far easier and make sense.
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 03, 2023, 05:10:35 AM
Quote from: RJ on January 03, 2023, 12:34:52 AM
Clilfford -

Looking at the dimensions of these catch cans, it seems that one would be perfect for the inline 71s, but two would probably work better for the V models, either 71s or 92s, installing one for each bank. Your thoughts?

RJ

They are about the same capacity as the Air/Sep system, I like the idea of maybe 2 though and they are cheap enough, the price of a stick of 4 inch PVC cost over 50 bucks then the caps are 10 bucks each plus the rest of pieces to build one,I am going to mount Tom's  where it is a easy access for service,the drains under pressure should have any problems pushing the oil in the drains up
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: Iceni John on January 03, 2023, 12:39:29 PM
My home-made airbox catch can uses two short lengths of clear PVC tube going into the can, so I can easily see how much oil is actually passing from each bank.

After I cleaned both valves that were stuck half-open I made my drain system, using a 96 fl.oz juice bottle that fits neatly inside the rear bumper.   The bottle's cap has a 1/4" hole for air to escape, and it traps all the oil in the bottle.   Elegant it ain't, but it works!

John
Title: Re: Catch Can for air box drains on a 2 stroke
Post by: luvrbus on January 03, 2023, 01:20:29 PM
Eagle buses have a boxed engine cradle, on mine I used a Ford vented oil cap and welded pipe collars for connections for the air box  drains and a valve to drain the cradle worked like a charm the years I owned the Eagle. If a 2 stroke is healthy you don't get but a few drops anyways just enough to spot the back of the bus and tow vehicle